On March 6, Rod Livdahl wrote a full column with all the answers. Only thing is he quoted the wrong facts. He writes all about the presidents in office as the debt mounted. The big problem is the president can only veto bills, not write them.
The real facts are that since the 1950s there has only been one period when the Republicans ran the Senate and the House. From January 1995 until mid 2001, when a Republican senator changed parties and the Senate went Democratic, the Republicans controlled both houses. Not coincidently, that is also the only time since around 1974 when the debt-to-GDP ratio went down any significant amount.
So now, Mr Livdahl, please explain your facts again.
Tom Windman
Mesa
mnjcpa posted at 6:30 pm on Sat, Mar 23, 2013.
VReason - you'd be better off banging your head against the wal than have a logical debate with Cerulean; a lockstep liberal that will defend Obama & his marxist policies regardless of his pathetic performance. Skyrocketing food stamps, print money until it's worthless...never mind! It's got to be Bush' fault.. Wouldn't consider a different point of view regardless of the results.
VofReason posted at 1:55 pm on Fri, Mar 22, 2013.
Well if EJ Montini says so, who are we to question. My guess is Cerulean sees Mr Montini as a centrist- no? Here is a question for you, who benefits from Obamacare? Evidently not businesses or the majority of people who have responsibly carried health insurance prior to it's passing?
Cerulean posted at 8:22 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.
E.J Montini had a good response to Mark Curtis when asked who benefits from the war in Iraq? Montini answered, “Halliburton”.
I can't argue with that, Halliburton and Associates made out like bandits from the war!
VofReason posted at 1:08 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.
Conversely, we can also ask how many Republicans in House or Senate were "fooled" into voting for the Obamacare boondoggle. Is it becuase Republicans are less gullable or .......
VofReason posted at 1:06 pm on Wed, Mar 20, 2013.
Good Cerulean and they petitioned Congress to go to war with the intelligence similar to that of other countries. You are aware that sitting Presidents don't actually create intelligence - right? You will also remember that the now liberal wing praised General Powell was the one who presented the intel- right? Perhaps Cerulean should ask the 82 Democrats in the House and 29 Democrats in the Senate why they agreed that it was the right thing to do.
Cerulean posted at 8:23 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.
How much did we spend in Iraq? Who petitioned congress for agreement to invade Iraq?
VofR, you and Tom should figure out those questions because I already know.
VofReason posted at 1:07 pm on Tue, Mar 19, 2013.
This is good Willie. I didn't realize that the Government was such a simple function. Apparently when President Bush was in office, he was solely responsible for every facet of the Government. Even though the Democrats were in control of both houses of Congress for a time. Strangly, even though Liberals screamed at the top of their lungs with heavy vile that President Bush was the dumbest person to ever walk the planet, he was some how so cunning as to get every "right wing" policy enacted during this time. Also, Willie may be able to explain to me why many Corporations, small business owners, business people in general speak out about President Obama's policies and Obamacare in general, yet he is the driver of the economic upswing?
onerebel posted at 8:48 pm on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.
What have the Liberals in Hollywood taught the Liberals in Washington? It's all about perception. Obama's policies should get credit for what appears to be an improving economy. The reason things appear to be improving is Obama's administration is artificially propping up the economy by printing gobs of money. Probably hoping things will last long enough to take back the house in 2014 so he can have total control of the government to enact a Liberal utopia. Germany tried the same thing after WWI and it took a wheel barrow full of money to buy a loaf of bread. Fact # 1 Liberals cannot deny the fact that Obama does have them printing lots more money. Fact # 2 history shows what happens when you try and print yourself out of debt. Fact # 3 when it finally does hit the fan because of printing money, Liberals will go from bragging about how their idea is working, to the usual blaming the idea on the other side!
Arizona Willie posted at 2:50 pm on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.
VofReason: I'm not the one to ask about that.
Try asking Bush the Lesser. He, and all his buddies, believed in BORROW AND SPEND AND CUT TAXES AND TO HELL WITH THE BILLS while preaching " personal responsibility to the unwashed masses.
Conservatives have NO PROBLEM with BORROW AND SPEND until the Presidency changes hands and a Democrat occupies the White House and then SPENDING is the most evil thing that ever happened.
The amazing thing is how right wingers can ignore the fact that since Obama took office and instituted HIS policies --- the housing problem is going away -- unemployment is down a little bit, but is going to go higher as he winds down the Afghan war and more soldiers come home looking for jobs.
And the right wingers ignore the Stock Market setting new records and people's retirement funds recovering all of their previous losses under BUSH.
VofReason posted at 2:18 pm on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.
Believe it was President Obama that said the US doesn't have a debt problem. Not Ryan. For Willie, I think any Republican would take the lying and more political leadership of Clinton over the lying and no political leadership we have today. Please tell me again how spending more money and even if you were to again slow the economy with higher taxes works?
downtownresident posted at 9:17 am on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.
Leon,
Paul Ryan said over the weekend that "the US does not have a debt problem".
Leon Ceniceros posted at 8:04 am on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.
Reading the Liberals, the Socialists, the Marxists, the Commie Wanna-Be's, the Anarchists, the Occupy Wall Street Rioters, and other assorted Democrats.......makes you ask one simple question............WHO BALANCES THEIR CHECKBOOK EVERY MONTH.
IT CAN'T POSSIBLE BE ANY OF THEM BECAUSE IF THEY DID....THEY WOULD SOON REALIZE AFTER GETTING ...."INSUFFICIENT FUNDS' NOTIFICATIONS AND CHARGES..........THAT THEY WOULD REALISE THAT.......YOU CAN'T KEEP WRITING ........."RUBBER CHECKS"...AND WE, AS A NATION HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR DECADES UNTIL WE ARE ..........$16,000,000,000,000.00..........IN DEBT.
Arizona Willie posted at 7:40 am on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.
Rodini: I gotta give the right wing kooks credit -- some of them have great big brass cojones.
The Republicans fought Clinton tooth and nail and spent most of their time investigating and trying to impeach him.
And NOW they try to take credit for the great economy that resulted from Clinton BEATING THEM.
Of course, reality was never a strong suit for the right wing.
Rodini posted at 4:59 pm on Sun, Mar 17, 2013.
Calm down Tom, before you blow a fuse!!!
Funny thing about you haters of the "takers", neither you nor Don who wrote on Sunday can pass along the correct date of my last letter??
You both say it was the 6th...but for some odd reason my computer shows it was posted on the "7th." ROFL ( But maybe it was published in the actual newspaper on the 6th? If so, my apologies, since I can't get their paper delivered here in our gated community?)
By the way Tom, in case no one taught you this in High School, the President can also SIGN the bills passed by Congress.
So now you're trying to sell us the economic boom that occurred under Clinton, after his tax increase of 1993, should be credited to the Republican controlled Congress, several years later, PLEASE? Your Regressives were wasting years of energy trying to impeach him? ROFL
But that was gutsy too Tom,, trying to subtly blame the "Trickle Down Disaster" on Democrats....Rich, Really Rich Tom.
Oh. by the way, please reread my letter again...I know it's hard to force yourself to read the truth, but it did not refer to debt mounting at all. But it did refer to how they dealt with that debt between 1945 and 1975?
The TRUTHS are self-evident.. both Democratic and Republican presidents SPENT money when times were tough to boost employment and let increased GDP and more working incomes paying taxes to bring down the debt over time.
AND IT WORKED TOO TOM!!
WHAT THEY DID NOT DO.... is what your regressives want to do so badly....cut spending drastically during a recession, which 95% of our economists tell us will stall a recovery and possibly slip us back into a full-fledged depression again!
Please Tom, before you write such nonsense again...please read things twice before you put your brain into action, so you are actually referring to what was written, not spouting nonsense about another topic, OK? Thx!
Gracias Amigo!
truth posted at 4:48 pm on Sun, Mar 17, 2013.
The GOP budget guru's plan to balance a budget would require a nearly impossible swing of seats in 2014. How can anyone take it seriously?
Democratic reactions to Paul Ryan's past budget proposals have run the gamut from skeptical to hostile to dismissive. Now add one more reason for all of the above: Even though President Obama won the 2012 election, Ryan's new plan to balance the federal budget in 10 years relies on repealing the Affordable Care Act.
The House Budget Committee chairman and former Republican vice-presidential nominee aims to save hundreds of billions by turning Medicaid into a block grant and handing it off to the states. "By repealing Obamacare, and the Medicaid expansions which haven't occurred yet, we are basically preventing an explosion of a program that is already failing," Ryan said on Fox News Sunday. He also would keep hundreds of billions in Medicare cuts that are already in the 2010 health care law (and which he and Mitt Romney fiercely attacked during the 2012 campaign), by repealing the law but keeping the cuts and using the money to help pay down the deficit. And presto, by the latest numbers available, you've got nearly $1.5 trillion in cuts right there from those two programs.