Mitt Romney’s foreign policy is about what you should expect from someone who evaded the Vietnam military draft by hiding out as a minister of religion — in France, no less. Like most Chickenhawks, as soon as the shooting stopped, Mitt suddenly became chest-beatingly aggressive, hoping that people might forget that he showed the white feather when it came time to stand up for his country.
His policy regarding the Middle East is something only a non-veteran could relate to, as he advocates “leading from the front” in Syria. If we should find the occasion to meddle in any foreign nation’s internal affairs, the most unwise thing I can think of would be leading from the front. Our record in these situations is 100 percent failure.
He might take a lesson from Dwight Eisenhower, who approached foreign affairs successfully by leading from the rear. Mitt should think about this as he advocates U.S. asssistance to the Muslim brotherhood.
Neil Thex
Mesa
Arizona Willie posted at 7:50 am on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Not < quite > right, Mr. Thex.
Romney has LOTS of foreign experience --- DEALING WITH CHINA.
He has LONG had a foreign policy --- send jobs to China.
chatmandu002 posted at 10:17 am on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Neil,
We are seeing what leading from behind had done for us lately. Obama has ran our foreign policy into the ground, our people are dead, no one respects us and our word means nothing. Obama's apologies have fell on deaf ears and embolden those that hate us. The Middle East is on fire, the United Nations is worthless and Obama still wants to blame it all on George Bush. There has been no leadership for the last 4 years either domestically or in foreign policy. It's time let Obama go.
Your ruse that Romney evaded the draft is false. Although Romney got 5 deferments for school and religious ministry, he was registered for the draft, number 300, which was never called.
Slabside posted at 10:22 am on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Romney has not illegally bombed Libya, allowed his people to illegally sell guns to Mexican drug cartels and allowed an American embassy be invaded and American personnel murdered.
Oh yes, Romney needs to be scrutinized on his foreign policies as the current potus' track record is squeaky clean!
truth posted at 3:06 pm on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Romney on foreign policy," we can not support our friends and defeat our enemies in the Middle East when our words are not backed by deeds." Romney
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, a Obama supporter dismissed the speach as "full of platitude and free of substance." Romney made a stirring case for more assertive foreign policy, said The Wall Street Journal.
Here we go again, Romney shares with George W. Bush a "messianic belief in American's ability to shoulder the world's burden alone." That deluded worldview resulted in two unfunded wars that raised the national debt by $ 800 billion. Now Romney wants to bring back Bushe's failed policies, but today "we are even less able to afford them." The Boston Globe
Actually, Romney's foreigh policy is almost indistinguishable from Obama's. Look beyond his forceful language, and you'll see that Romney all but echoed the President's warning on Iran's nuclear program and the importance of a two-state sollution to the Israeli-Palestinian problem. "Speak roughly, in other words, and carry a same-size stick." The Los Angeles Times
samkat posted at 4:42 pm on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
All I have to say about Romney is that while he was legally evading the draft, probably due to a lot of finagling on the part of his father, I was serving as a volunteer the entire Vietnam war. PS: I notice that none of Mitt's son's have volunteered to serve either. It must be a family thing.
Now, it is true that Romney does not have foreign policy experience but then neither did Obama.
Slabside posted at 4:45 pm on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
truth, do you still beat your wife?
Accuracy posted at 6:18 pm on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Neil Thex wrote: “Mitt should think about this as he advocates U.S. assistance to the Muslim brotherhood.”
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Calling for a partnership with the Islamic world in an address to the Turkish parliament in 2009 — it was President Barack Hussein Obama who said: “…We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country."
Obama also said, 'The United States has been enriched by Muslim-Americans, many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim majority country – I know because I am one of them.”
While today, security experts warn that the United States faces the real danger of a massive attack by foreign cyber terrorists.
tededitedit posted at 9:18 pm on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Mitt is a member of a religion that makes up their own truths. One that lies and cheats and breaks up good families just to add members. One that is "pro-(Mormon only)-family". Investigate for yourself before Election Day and I'll bet you'll choose the lesser of two evils -Obama. Start by searching " Joseph Smith datura".
mrconservative posted at 10:51 pm on Mon, Oct 15, 2012.
Neil, one question: does it really matter if Romney has no foreign policy experience?
Before he was elected, Obama had no foreign policy experience either.
As far as I know, anyway. He was in the Illinois state Senate for I don't know how many years, then the U.S. Senate for two years, and he spent much of that time running for president, often voting "present" in the Senate.
Tededitedit, you are not being honest. You claim that the LDS faith "lies and cheats"
and "breaks up good families".
Excuse me? "Breaks up good families"? We are pro-family. The family is one of the most important parts of our faith.
We do not make up the truth. We tell the truth. "Datura" isn't even a word.
I'm not sure what you mean by "cheat". We never "cheat". We are honest people. We believe in being honest, true and chaste, among many other things. That is part of the 13th Article of Faith. Feel free to look it up.
If people choose to leave their familes to join, that is their choice. Don't hold it against them.
Even if he wasn't LDS, I would still vote for Mitt Romney. I would vote for him if I wasn't LDS, either. I know of plenty of people who are not LDS who are voting for Romney.
Obama is a radical. He is dangerous. He needs to be defeated. Vote for Romney. It is what's best for the country, and the world.
VofReason posted at 12:45 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.
And so Neil's point is we must re elect President Obama. Hmmm. Don't think Obama went to Veitnam and we have seen how he handles foriegn policy- blaming the work of crazies on an internet movie. And thank you to truth, now that we no where Madeline Halfbright and the Boston Globe stand on the issue, what else is there to say? That is rich.......
truth posted at 3:22 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.
I see the Trib will delete my articles even if they contain facts, because they don't follow the Tribs way of thinking, but print slabsides remarks. Tyrants and dictators have always said control the news and you control the people , Arizona is a prime example of this statement.
Engaged Voter posted at 5:20 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.
Slabside's reply speaks volumes, and is indicative of the Religulous Right's responses to facts they don't like.
Lie, slander, and spew baseless insults.
Thanks for showing us your true colors Slabside, let us know when that spine grows in.
POOR, POOR MRCONSERVATIVE.
He either just recovered from a traumatic brain injury...or he's lying again.
Wow...first Mormons caught lying, then a Mormon caught drunk driving...what's next?!
Engaged Voter posted at 5:22 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.
"now that we no where"
VofReason, could you translate that into English please?
(and change your psuedonym if you're going to continue to ignore Reason)
Engaged Voter posted at 5:25 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.
"We are honest people. We do not make up the truth. We tell the truth."
Says the person who has made the following claims:
"There is scientific proof of spirits"
"A tea partier has NEVER brought a weapon to a demonstration, NEVER!"
"Jesus travelled to Missouri"
"There may be thousands of Muslims, but not millions or billions"
"The earth is less than 20,000 years old"
HERP DERP
Engaged Voter posted at 5:47 pm on Tue, Oct 16, 2012.
Here's what "honest, loving Mormons" used to do to non-Mormon Americans before the murdering thieves were stopped - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre
Notice how they dressed up like Native Americans in order to get Indians blamed for the murderes.
Not very honest of those Mormons, was it, mrconservative?
Slabside posted at 6:47 am on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.
Engaged Voter, Walgreens called, your meds are ready for pick up.
Engaged Voter posted at 9:24 am on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.
Thanks for being so predictable, Slabside.
I love it when these weasels expose themselves as nothing but a bag of hot air.
VofReason posted at 12:14 pm on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.
Thank you Enraged voter for the spelling tips. Back in school they used to let it slide because I could come up with cogent thoughts and didn't have to lash out when I disagreed. Evidently you were on the otherside of that equation- but you are indeed a great speller with perfect grammer. Just empty and angry.
Slabside posted at 12:20 pm on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.
As soon as you called me a weasel, I knew I recognized you Engaged Voter. You're the nut case that used to go by Free Thinker or something like that. What happened, EVT banish you so you had to assume another identity? You're still a nut case.
Dale Whiting posted at 8:25 pm on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.
For argument's sake, let's assume that neither Obama nor Romney had sufficient foreign policy experience prior to running for office the first time as president. This leads us to the realization that with four years of foreign policy experience, President Obama now has four more years of experience. Obama has not done worse as Commander in Chief than did Bush 43. And arguably he has done better. Neither Romney nor Obama served on active duty, and Bush 43 avoided much active duty service by getting help from his father to join the Texas Air National Guard at a time when being called up for active duty was neigh impossible.
So all of this discussion leads us to the inescapable conclusion. From the perspective of experience, for 2012 President Obama is the most qualified person to lead the military through 2016 and to help direct US foreign policy. Of course, this does not mean that he does not need some help. But with the likes of Mitch McConnell in the Senate and John Boehner in the House, there is little prospect that he will be getting any. So vote for Obama and pray that the House gets dominated by Democrats in 2013
Rich posted at 9:35 pm on Wed, Oct 17, 2012.
Dale,
We left Iraq, the third largest oil producer in the world, with our tail between our legs. And last week I paid over five dollars a gallon to get home from California. Please, if you're going to go about making war, learn how to profit from it. Obama hasn't a clue. Bush had one, admittedly he needed three or four more, but really, if you are going to war to control oil, you don't back out of an oil producing country to concentrate on an opium producing country. Obama is essentially clueless. From "The perspective of experience" Obama only has the edge because he has messed (not what I wanted to say) up so many ways, he's only got a couple left before sundown.
wdgnas posted at 6:37 am on Thu, Oct 18, 2012.
rich, nice spin? how many more troops and civilians have to die or be maimed to quench your thirst for oil?
the reason you paid five dollars a gallon for gas in california was because of a refinery shut down.
bush and friends started the war and if you think they are not profiting from that war you are sadly mistaken.
and just how much money does it take to keep two carrier groups in the persian gulf and one carrier group in the mediterranean sea?
Masterrogue666 posted at 6:40 am on Thu, Oct 18, 2012.
When Obama was elected, I did pray that he'd keep the promises he made. That isn't the case. I don't completely trust Romney, but Obama has proven to me that his plans are contrary to mine, so for that reason alone, I will not vote for him.
Slabside posted at 11:45 am on Thu, Oct 18, 2012.
Obamamite wdgnas asks:
rich, nice spin? how many more troops and civilians have to die or be maimed to quench your thirst for oil?
So wdgnas, your household does not have an automobile, you do not use any plastics at all. You live entirely off the grid so your consumption of anything related or manufactured using oil is nonexistent right? Wow, you really have the right to shame the rest of us for sure!!!
Obamamite wdgnas says:
bush and friends started the war and if you think they are not profiting from that war you are sadly mistaken.
Almost every Democrat is Congress supported Bush's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, your God Obama has continued war by illegally bombing Libya. At least Bush went to Congress for approval. Obama attacked Libya all on his own.
Obamamite wdgnas asks:
and just how much money does it take to keep two carrier groups in the persian gulf and one carrier group in the mediterranean sea?
Gee wdgnas, let's ask your God Obama shall we? He has kept the wars going for the last four years. Bush hasn't been potus in all that time so put on your big boy pants and admit Obama is continuing Bush's policies.
VofReason posted at 12:05 pm on Thu, Oct 18, 2012.
Dale Whiting says "So all of this discussion leads us to the inescapable conclusion. From the perspective of experience, for 2012 President Obama is the most qualified person to lead the military through 2016 and to help direct US foreign policy. " I think you may be one of the few who cannot escape this conclusion. I think getting the first diplomat killed in 50 years compromises your foreign policy credentials- just sayin'. Boy if Dale Whiting is a "Republican", who needs enemies? What Repulican values does he carry? I haven't spotted any in any of his many posts.
Slabside posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Oct 18, 2012.
Now you've done it VofReason. Dale will now recite his standard tripe of how he follows the teachings of William F. Buckley and Barry Goldwater and how he is much more of a conservative than you. You will be labeled a "Neo-Con" and he will still walk lock step with Obamanure's horrible presidential record.
Wait for it... wait for it...
wdgnas posted at 6:47 am on Fri, Oct 19, 2012.
slabside: So wdgnas, your household does not have an automobile, you do not use any plastics at all. You live entirely off the grid so your consumption of anything related or manufactured using oil is nonexistent right? Wow, you really have the right to shame the rest of us for sure!!! solar panels and a solar heater take up the majority of the slack on utilities.
Almost every Democrat is Congress supported Bush's invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. Furthermore, your God Obama has continued war by illegally bombing Libya. At least Bush went to Congress for approval. Obama attacked Libya all on his own.
nice revisionist history: nato was involved in libya first. and the number one reason for the conflict (war) in libya was OIL.
Gee wdgnas, let's ask your God Obama shall we? He has kept the wars going for the last four years. Bush hasn't been potus in all that time so put on your big boy pants and admit Obama is continuing Bush's policies.
i do not have to put on my big boy pants to admit that obama is continuing bush's policies. he has continued bush's policies. republicans screamed like little girls when troops were being drawn down in irag and will be screaming like little girls when troops are drawn down in afghanistan. and the reason for troops being drawn down in both countries. the elected governments do not want us there.
maybe you can answer my question? rich sure can't.
how much money does it take to keep two carrier groups in the persian gulf and one carrier group in the mediterranean sea?
wdgnas posted at 6:50 am on Fri, Oct 19, 2012.
slabside: are you a romneymite? or just a mormonmite?
k33j88 posted at 7:50 am on Fri, Oct 19, 2012.
Thank you Slabside-----Love your posts----no-nonsense, cut to the bone.
k33j88 posted at 8:33 am on Fri, Oct 19, 2012.
Dear Neil: Four more years of your esteemed leader and these are my predictions. A caliphate will rise to advance "sharia" and empower muslims(sunni & shiite) to unite and fore-go their differences. The muslim brotherhood will dominate and impose their will throughout the middle east. The "dollar" will lose its reserve currency status. The once mighty and proud US armed forces will be shell of its former glory, without resolve or the means to diffuse conflict. Mass unrest and riots in the streets will become commonplace----as in Greece and Spain. Russia would reassert in dominance over territorial disputes. The Asian-Pacific region will experience regional disputes, disregarding treaties and international agreements. There will be a major shift in policy regarding natural mineral rights. Because the USA has lost its ability to defend our Allies due to a weakened military and a debased dollar(unmanageable debt), there will be a massive land grab for ancient lands formerly recognized. This is only a sampling of the POTUS next term in office.
Slabside posted at 11:22 am on Fri, Oct 19, 2012.
And wdgnas, I'll tell you again... ASK OBAMA. Why would Rich or I know what it costs? Neither Rich nor I are the president of the United States... OBAMA IS. The buck stops at Obama's desk. Obama keeps the the two carrier groups in the Persian Gulf. Just how stupid are you?
wdgnas posted at 4:36 am on Sat, Oct 20, 2012.
slabside: are you a romneymite? or just a mormonmite?
Slabside posted at 8:46 am on Sat, Oct 20, 2012.
Neither one wdgnas. I am an American conservative. I believe in God and the United States. I will vote for Romney as this country needs a leader, not a glorified community organizer who graduated from stapling hand outs to telephone poles to politics with the help of a known anti-American terrorist. Romney is far from perfect but he is a business man and that is what America needs right now to reverse the trillion dollar hole Obummer has spent us into.
I care not that Mitt is a Mormon. JFK was a Catholic during a time when many thought Catholics were members of a cult.
So why are you evading the topic of Obama being the Commander in Chief and his keeping 2 carrier groups in the Persian Gulf?
I know... I know...IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!
DonMey posted at 8:55 am on Sat, Oct 20, 2012.
Which foreign policy do you want? The one who said he'd be on the side of the muslims if things go south? And then proved it by bending over backwards to blame the killing of our ambassador in Libya on a movie clip?
Or the man who is personal friends with the leader of Israel, and has been quite outspoken on the need for that alliance?
wdgnas posted at 5:40 am on Mon, Oct 22, 2012.
slabside: as i posted yesterday. i will admit president obama is continuing president bush's policies. i repeat. president obama is continuing president bush's policies. as you so adequately, continuing president bush's policies.
once again. how much money does it take to keep two carrier groups in the persian gulf and one carrier group in the mediterranean sea?
i can accept 'i don't know' or i don't care' for an answer.
as an american conservative, don't you think its time for the military to stop providing security for american companies overseas?
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