Beydler: Cain failed to learn from Weinergate
Jon Beydler
Jon Beydler is a 32-year Valley resident and the former mayor of Fountain Hills who now lives in Chandler.
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mnjcpa posted at 8:17 am on Tue, Nov 15, 2011.
None of these "claims" have been substantiated and any conservative Republican that rises in the polls is going to have the bottom feeder media after them.
One of the women has a history of complaining about sexual harassment and the other - despite a history of financial problems - hires a high profile media attorney to state her case. And you don't find a bit of coincidence in this reporting? These accusations are just that - accusations and don't hold a candle to the criminal acts against the American people by the Obama administration. Most people I talk to see through the charade called "truth in reporting" for what it really is - campaign strategies for the left.
Cerulean posted at 9:18 am on Tue, Nov 15, 2011.
Jon, something tickles me about the title of your column. Then I asked myself “why is the word ‘gate’ so commonly used in combining form to describe a scandal or skullduggery.” I suppose it is entirely due to the Nixon Watergate incident, where the DNC Watergate complex in Washington was bugged for eavesdropping. It also makes sense if you look at the Old Norse origin of the word ‘gate’ when it meant road. Then you could think of it as Weiner’s road or path. Watergate too led Nixon down the denial path to final resignation.
While I am not agreeing that it was not the sex - deviant sexual behavior from our public officers always makes for a good scandal - as Eliot Spitzer new well. I do agree that lying is the more corrosive element.
To end, for me the tickle is in the word wei-ner, it’s the sound.
Accuracy posted at 10:07 am on Tue, Nov 15, 2011.
Jon Beydler wrote: “Herman Cain's campaign for the Republican presidential nomination is over.”
Why, Jon Beydler . . because he’s black and the Liberals do not want him to take on President Obama with his presidential campaign?
There is nonstop reporting by the Liberal mainstream media on the Herman Cain allegations. They are running with vapid lies from gold-digging phonies that have accused the Georgia businessman of sexual harassing them during his time as head of the National Restaurant Association.
The media’s use of its enormous power against Republican, especially conservative and candidates, but Cain has denied the accusations and is moving forward with his presidential campaign.
listenertoo posted at 9:50 am on Fri, Nov 18, 2011.
Jon is right. As awful as an accusation of sexual harassment is, it's the pattern that is telling. Not being a math professor I wouldn't be able to say what the odds are when two woman come forward, then three, then four and now five? I would think that would be quite a high statistical probability, and that does not bode well for Mr. Cain.
A woman's reputation is not even part of the question. Even a woman who has filed reports of sexual harassment before, or has had financial troubles, or even a woman who has a terrible reputation doesn't deserve to be sexual harassed.
Men don't deserve to be sexually harassed either, and don't think for a minute they aren't. They are loathe to report sexual harassment. Sexual harassment of men still causes snickers because it is always assumed, wrongly, that all men are dogs who take sex where ever and whenever they can it.
Lord, knows children should never be harassed. Penn State will never outlive it's ugly reputation.
The old, the young, the ugly, the mentally-challenged, the rich, the poor shouldn't be mentally challenged.
Nobody should ever be sexually harassed.
Nobody deserves to be sexually harassed.
This has nothing to do with politics, racism, men or woman, or even religious beliefs. Sexual harassment knows know boundaries.
Jon is right that Cain should have just owned up to what he did because in this day and age the truth refuses to stay hidden. If Cain has any self-respect at all he will acknowledge what he has done. Cain is an old-fashioned guy, who still seems to believe that comments or actions of a sexual nature are compliments to a woman. That shows are far out of step he is and that is a sign that he could never be president.
mnjcpa posted at 6:00 pm on Fri, Nov 18, 2011.
It's assumed he's guilty because random women make the accusation? The media circus gathers around any conservative candidate that rises in the polls. We give minimal coverage to a candidate with known ties to terrorists ( Bill Ayers) & socialist policies & pay minimal attention to his background. But we take the word of a media lawyer & women that have a pattern of financial trouble & multiple accusations? I see it for what it is.
And putting Cain within the same context as the Penn State tragedy? That's the tragedy.
I watched the interview of the Cain family. There's NO WAY he is anything other than a charismatic, morally solid leader. While it's important to respect people - there are many statistics to support too many times people use these rules for personal gain.
I'm with him even more than before. He represents a threat to the liberal agenda & nothing more.
Dale Whiting posted at 8:37 am on Sun, Nov 20, 2011.
mnjcpa asks "It's assumed he's guilty because random women make the accusation?" No, not for all. But clearly Cain has failed to address these accusations convincingly and head on. He could release all of the materials in the NRA files, including accusations and settlement negotiations. In all likelihood that would settle the matter. But failing to do so only makes him look bad. So the natural assumption is that he is avoiding settling the matter because in attempting to do so, we'd find out worse.
And you want someone this naive or incredulous "to be" our next president? I guess that depends on what the meaning of "to be" is to be!
Dale Whiting posted at 8:39 am on Sun, Nov 20, 2011.
P.S.
Cerulean,
The authors don't get to choose their titles. That's the editor's job.
mnjcpa posted at 11:52 am on Sun, Nov 20, 2011.
Dale - clearly you don't understand those pesky legal agreements that prevent him from doing so. I've been in a corporate finance position and know the number of people - both male and female - that use matters like this for personal gain. We actually had a budget for it. I've studied his background and am convinced that Cain did what he was allowed to do under the legal agreements he was bound to. I'll take someone with his background any day before the crooks that are running this country now.
Watch and see - Newt's up next. It's as pattern and philosophy that the Left uses. We can't beat you through record or performance - but we'll rip you apart personally. Sorry - it doesn't work for this writer. I see it for what it is.