The upcoming election is about Ann Romney, the First Lady Michelle Obama, you, my wife, and every woman in the United States who might lose their rights of choice if the GOP have their way in 2012. This fight isn’t about contraception, Ms. Turley-Hansen, it’s about a woman’s, and eventually everyone’s, right to make any decision for herself/themselves going forward in the future.
The GOP have a very long standing of being anti-women, and anti-minority (still to this day they are anti-minorities), from them working and making equal pay, to religious doctrines which all but force a woman to stay at home to pop out babies like a Pez dispenser.
No one person in the world, male or female, has the right to tell any other person what they can or can not do with their own bodies. When we start regulating personal choices with our own alien bodies through laws which only seek to control, we might as well take away all thoughts of reason and become robots. No one person is superior to tell another what they can do. I surely wouldn’t want a woman or a man legislating what I could do with my body, but you are OK with the GOP, mostly white males, telling you what you can do with your body? So much for freedom of choice.
Yet it boils down to control over everyone and imposing your religious beliefs on someone who doesn’t care to believe, which is my right to do so. America has freedom of religion and with that comes freedom from religion as well. Religions, God and Jesus specifically, were created by men who sought to gain control over the illiterate masses thousands of years ago. Religions prey upon the weak minded or those who lack the ability to think for themselves. Trust me, I grew up in a Christian household, went to Tri-City and Grace Community schools in Tempe through grade 6. I fell for the lies, I learned through life’s lessons that religion is a farce and does nothing for one’s well-being or health, despite how much you pray.
Religions are not inclusive as you say, but rather exclusive and they rarely have the patience for each other. Religions divide and segregate. Just look at what is taking place in Israel. They hate the Palestinians, so they are razing homes for their settlements despite having agreed to accords over the last 60-plus years. And it’s all religious based, as the Jews think they own every inch of the Middle East. Just because, as you state, 92 percent of women (or 92 percent of all Americans) believe in God, doesn’t mean that we all have to kowtow to your ways.
I’m a very proud atheist who knows that believing in God or Jesus doesn’t make you a better person. America was founded, Ms. Turley, not as you tea-partiers want to believe because of taxes, but we were founded because the King of England was forcing one religion on all of his lands. Our founding fathers were much smarter than we are now. They knew that the perils of mixing religion and politics were catastrophic. And their beliefs are coming true.
Sure, our founding fathers were religious, deeply. However, their beliefs didn’t make it onto paper. If America, as you believe, is truly a Christian nation, prove it with our founding documents. Because there is nary a word except the word Creator, which is mentioned but once, that is remotely close to making our Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States a Christian document or making us a Christian nation. Those ideas are contrived by the GOP and are used to manipulate Americans when the flag is waved about during times of patriotic importance or whenever a political race is about.
And it is about the economy, stupid. In your hack job delivered April 18, 2012 titled “Economy, not religion, the most important issue,” you only mentioned the economy once, and that was the last sentence, which I disagree with. The economy is taking shape, despite the GOP demands for a fix overnight.
There is nothing that the president can do about the stock market, the jobs losses, the economy. It took decades for our economy to break. It was accelerated under King George with three wars. When Bush took office he had a budget surplus; when he left, the debt was $10 trillion. As John Adams says: “Facts are stubborn things.”
President Obama has added roughly $1 trillion to the debt, not the whole amount that the right-wingers want to lob about.
Bush took a budget surplus and turned around and handed out not one, not two, but three “stimulus” payments to Americans during his presidency. King George saw unprecedented business collapses under his regime. Starting with Enron, they continued, and then the auto industry failed. Failed banks galore, and now it’s all President Obama’s fault?
Gas shot to an all-time high under King George and what did he do? Hand out money for the third time which made the oil companies billions and did nothing to bring down the price of gas, which as some suggested was artificially inflated. Gas is going down now and President Obama didn’t hand out money, so what has happened Ms. Turley?
As I see it, the GOP war mongers have stopped their comments about wanting to invade Iran and the price of oil is starting to drop.
You see, we invade Iran under the GOP, gas doubles or triples overnight. Iran is a sovereign nation and they have the right to develop nukes, bio weapons, kazoos, french horns or grow flowers. America has 5000-plus nukes and we are building new nuclear power plants and a new class of nuclear weapons. Yet, I don’t see Iran running to the UN demanding sanctions on America for our decisions as a sovereign nation.
America has to stop being the world’s police and a nation builder until we rebuild our nation first. The GOP wants to conquer the world and have a holy war with Islam; there is no reason why we have to still be in Afghanistan and Iraq or the Middle East, unless we are protecting someone or something.
Americans and Arizonans have two choices in 2012 — re-elect President Obama and continue our forward-thinking progress, making equality for all, not government mandate relationships, love and choice.
Re-elect President Obama, who will continue to work to repair America’s image abroad while focusing on the homeland, something the GOP is ignoring.
If America elects the GOP in 2012 to rule the world, we will be sunk. Willard, Ricky and Newton have all vowed to start war with Iran, and with that comes a war with China and Russia. Can America afford their holy war?
One of the three GOP candidates has vowed to rule America with Judeo-Christian Sharia Law. We can elect the GOP, which will decide what choices everyone will have in the future and we will start more wars which America can’t afford.
Jason Llewellyn
Tempe
Rational Human posted at 12:35 pm on Wed, Apr 25, 2012.
Why not present his posted birth certificate as evidence and put the matter before a court? Because they know it's a fraud and wont pass muster. That's why they went so far to make sure it couldn't be used in evidence. Any fool can see that. Only a kool-ade drinking Obamazombie with blinders on can't see the truth.
StotheizzE posted at 10:52 am on Wed, Apr 25, 2012.
Again, more twisting of the facts by a website devoted to destroying the President. The stipulation wasn't that the birth certificate wasn't real and legitimate, the stipulation was that they weren't going to present the birth certificate as evidence in this case because it wasn't legally required.
Rational Human posted at 10:08 am on Wed, Apr 25, 2012.
Barack Obama’s attorney admitted in open court that the document currently posted on the White House website is, indeed, a forgery. This admission was done by stipulation. Mr. Wilcox, the expert witness offering estimony, was waived from appearance by Ms. Hill’s stipulation to Mr. Apuzzo’s demand that the White House birth certificate could not be used as any evidence as to Obama’s record of birth. Upon inquiry by the judge, Ms. Hill so stipulated. There is absolutely NO REASON to stipulate to the assertion that the White House birth certificate is anything other than authentic, and therefore admissible, if it is in fact, legitimate. There would have been NO NEED for her to stipulate thereto if there was not indeed, something very wrong with that document. Ms. Hill’s assertion, that the New Jersey Secretary of State does not require a birth certificate would have been sufficient to prevail in her argument. Yet, she stipulated. Concurrence to her argument can be seen in the last video posted above, wherein the judge explains that New Jersey has no requirement for a candidate to present their birth certificate to be on the ballot.
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/04/18/obama-lawyer-admits-in-court-birth-certificate-on-white-house-website-is-a-forgery/
It also could not be established whether or not Obama ever presented a birth certificate, any birth certificate, the forged document on the White House website, or any other one, to the New Jersey Secretary of State. Therefore, if none was presented, the claim of fraud could not be argued. The judge even goes on to allude to the idea that if this case where in another jurisdiction, one that requires a birth certificate for placement on a ballot for office, this would be an entirely different situation.
The bottom line here is two-fold: (1) The birth certificate currently on the White House website is admitted to be a forgery, and (2) The judge in this matter could not hold Obama to a standard that the State of New Jersey does not have.
Just a legal maneuver preventing the forgery from being scrutinized further. The legal argument that no president is legally required to present a birth certificate is valid and that needs to be changed so that this atrocity cannot occur ever again
StotheizzE posted at 9:25 am on Wed, Apr 25, 2012.
"Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.:"
The above passage is a gross misrepresentation of what the lawyer said. Never during the proceedings did Hill 'admit that the image of Obama's birth certificate was a forgery'.
Just so everyone understands what really happened, Hill argued that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his qualifications under Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution and be placed on the New Jersey Democratic Party primary ballot. She said his birth certificate has no relevancy to his eligibility to be on the New Jersey ballot.
The judge in the case agreed, that no where in New Jersey law does it say a candidate for President must present a birth certificate to be on the ballot in the state.
So, what the Birther movement did was twisted Hill's argument. She was saying: "the President's birth certificate cannot be used as evidence because there is no requirement in New Jersey for him to present his birth certificate." But the Tea Party turned that into: "The birth certificate cannot be used as evidence because it is fake."
So, after that simple-to-follow explanation of what really happened, I ask again: Why do many of you blatantly lie? You allege the President lies and you hate him for it, but you turn around and lie yourselves.
Rational Human posted at 7:21 am on Wed, Apr 25, 2012.
Mr. Obama’s attorney asserted that the document is not evidence of either Mr. Obama’s identity or place of birth. Judge Masin also asked Obama’s attorney whether she would so stipulate. She did so stipulate, agreeing that both the court and the Secretary of State cannot rely on the internet birth certificate as evidence of Obama’s place of birth and that Obama has produced no other evidence to the court regarding his place of birth.
What does this mean?
It means that Mr. Obama’s legal team decided the alleged birth certificate on the White House website cannot be defended from evidence it is a forgery.
Read that twice to let that sink-in.
This is consistent with the quote attributed to Gandhi that criminal oligarchs will ignore and laugh at you as for as long as possible to avoid the fight that factually crushes them.
This also means that exposing a lie this big helps the 99% with intellectual integrity and moral courage to expose the 1%’s crimes in money and war, arrest the obvious criminals, and begin policy for 100% of Earth’s inhabitants.
Rational Human posted at 7:19 am on Wed, Apr 25, 2012.
http://www.silverdoctors.com/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility/
Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.
Oh what the heck just google "lawyer admits document is forgery" Just because you wont hear about it in the lefty main stream media doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means they don't want joe public to hear about it.
StotheizzE posted at 1:10 pm on Tue, Apr 24, 2012.
You find me in that court case where Obama's lawyer said the words 'This document cannot be used as evidence because it is a fraud (or forgery, or fake).'
It did not happen.
It is a lie.
Prove to me that it happened. Cite some source other than the Tea Party Tribune. You will not be able to because it did not happen, so I'm asking any of you people why you insist on lying?
It's not about disliking or not trusting Obama, I don't have any issue with people who have serious issues with his policies, but it's the level of hatred that is seen in some of the posts and the lengths people will go, i.e. blatant lying, that is most troubling. That kind of hatred goes much deeper than just disagreeing with someones' politics.
VofReason posted at 12:34 pm on Tue, Apr 24, 2012.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. Yup maybe old Jason was right. Doesn't sound like those founders had any reverance for the Creator. They must have meant Darwin or a lightening bolt and puddle of water. What are the odds that Jason has a medical marijuana card.......
VofReason posted at 12:31 pm on Tue, Apr 24, 2012.
Our friend Jason has obviously displayed the fact that he is much smarter then the "Religions prey upon the weak minded or those who lack the ability to think for themselves". Thank goodness for that, we have been waiting for 1000s of years for one who is smart enough to tell all of us who have believed the Bible. But Jason did attend church for 6th grade, so I suppose that makes him an expert on religion. Yes, Jason women should have control over their bobies. Then when they exhibit the fact that they don't by having risky or unprotected sex, should someone step in and make sure they cannot make that mistake again?
TeaPartyPatriot posted at 4:42 pm on Mon, Apr 23, 2012.
Not only is In_God_We_Trust correct in his comments but it is easy to google the facts about their lawyer flat out admitting the document can't be used as evidence since it is a fraud.
Rational Human posted at 2:07 pm on Mon, Apr 23, 2012.
StotheizzE, stop with the race baiting nonsense. There are valid reasons to dislike and distrust the Obamanation that have nothing to do with race. Everything Truth stated is a fact that anyone with half a brain knows already. It's you kool-ade drinking obamazombies that can't see the obvious.
StotheizzE posted at 9:43 am on Mon, Apr 23, 2012.
In God We Trust: Stop with the copy and paste and stop with the stories that are not true. We get it, you're like many of the other wackos who don't like the President because he's black, but at least find something to post that has some truth to it. The birth certificate topic has been covered. And if you are citing findings from a posse in Maricopa County, your base of knowledge isn't real deep.
Fact: Never during the New Jersey court case did any of Obama's attorney's admit his birth certificate was a fake. (I looked through the transcripts).
So, I must ask, In God We Trust: Why do you post lies? I'm assuming from your name that you are a religious person, so why do you lie on a public forum? Can we expect an honest answer, or more copied and pasted lies?
k33j88 posted at 7:50 am on Sat, Apr 21, 2012.
Mr. Llewellyn: Satan is the father of lies and it seems you've been hoodwinked, hook, line, and sinker. You're liberal education is shining through. How can anyone not see that this nation was built on Judean/Christian values is beyond me. Unless of course an individual threw out all critical thinking skills when the professors were spewing their poison. Jason-----you've been had.
k33j88 posted at 7:41 am on Sat, Apr 21, 2012.
Dear In-God- We-Trust: This ineligible illegal in the White House has been trampling on our beloved Constitution for some time now. Remember the "UN small arms treaty queen"----her thighness-----Hillary the eighth? She's licking her chops.
Abstract01 posted at 9:54 pm on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
Dale,
Free Choice? Surely you do not disagree that we can make any choice, but we cannot pick and choose the consequences? Choices are not free.
You say that you are a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I suppose that you have read the Book of Mormon?
Do you believe it was unfair of Captain Moroni to force the "king men" to take up arms in defense of their country, their government, etc? (Alma chapters 60-62 ). Was it unjust to put to death those who had instigated rebellion and then refused to fight against a common enemy?
Agency is the right to choose. It is God-given to each of us. Agency is also a responsibility. We have that responsibility to encourage, persuade, and sometimes force our fellow man to live by the best standards that our society can endure. If we did not have the right to force good behavior, then why would we have regulations, law enforcement, a justice department and the penal system?
Your scriptures also describe what happens to a country and society that cannot separate the bad guys from the good guys. (3 Nephi chapters 2-7)
When we allow a perversion or abrogation of our society's mores, then the road of decline is before us. When we live in a society that allows expression, there is always the possibility of being redirected toward non-optimal ways. When one see (or foresees) the end result of such a road, should he not strive to bring it to the attention of all?
samkat posted at 5:03 pm on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
Leon, you have yet to demonstrate that you have adopted even one unwanted child. Otherwise, you remain a hypocrite. Think of the 11,000 plus unwanted children in CPS custody looking for a loving home. Funny none of the pro lifers are beating down the doors to adopt them.
My wife and I are pro choice and proud of it. Give the woman the option to control her body and not some flat earth religious zealot.
By the way, the state and national republican parties are imploding because they have been highjacked by a small number of extremists. Ditto for the democrats. What we need is a viable 3rd party and watch the moderate from both sides make a beeline for it should it happen.
Leon Ceniceros posted at 2:39 pm on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
Lol...I get a kick out of seeing the "left-wing Liberal femi-gnatzies" who appear on CNN, MSNBC, PBS or any of the 'views" TV shows.
For the most part...the average view has a hard time distinguishing the "gender" of the "pro-choice" viewpoint. No make-up, no hair-do or perm, nothing "feminine"...kind of like a Rachel Maddow meets Whoopie Goldberg. Can someone tell me when a man's white, Sears Extra-Heavy 100% cotton t-shirt became a ...BLOUSE ???
I worked with some great women bosses in the Business World and the Military who were feminine in deportment and dress and all the while still exercising professional standards. The femi-gnatzies never learned that as the old saying goes..."you get more flies with honey than vinegar". You can be a lovely lady and be a good boss too.
Remember when the "women's movement" first came to flower and the "feminists" called.....women who wanted to stay at a home and have children ....nothing but ...."BREEDERS"....likening them to ............"cows" ???
chatmandu002 posted at 12:21 pm on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
Jason,
It is fun a rant and rave with facts and numbers you like and not the real facts or numbers. Keep drinking more of your liberal/progressive coolaide it's showing in your rants and makes you look the fool of your ideology.
Cerulean posted at 10:31 am on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
Leon said, "So women of today have the right to practise "unprotected sex". They have the right to conceive and then to murder the baby that they have conceived. Fetal life is of no consequence, just a mass of bloody human tissue."
Linda said, "American women also believe in God (94 percent; see Gallup Poll 6.6.11) and we know how women are: They will want the same for their children. "
It sounds like the religious right is trying to convince women who believe in God (94%) to give life to children they cannot support alone. Now - why on earth would that be? What sense does that make?
abimopectore posted at 9:24 am on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
"The upcoming election is about Ann Romney, the First Lady Michelle Obama, you, my wife, and every woman in the United States who might lose their rights of choice if the GOP have their way in 2012."
1. This is completely false. Contraceptives are available and so is abortion and will continue to be available regardless of the election and this is not what is being argued. Forcing religious institutions to pay for objectionable moral procedures/prophylactics is what is at issue. It's too bad health insurance programs are sponsored through employers. It would be much better if insurance was done on an individual basis where workers could individually apply and get the insurance they wanted. Employers would just pay the worker and the worker would go out and get insurance. We wouldn't be having this argument if this was the case. Unfortunately, this would require reform in the health insurance business something neither political party has been willing to tackle and something Obamacare didn't address at all.
"I’m a very proud atheist who knows that believing in God or Jesus doesn’t make you a better person."
2. As much as you want folks to respect your opinion, you need to respect other views as well. Your arguments prior to these statements aren't reasoned positions but weak attacks on highly nuanced issues that require a delicate fleshing out of details and not obtuse over generalizations that pigeon-hole opposing opinions and prevent a healthy discussion of the issues.
"President Obama has added roughly $1 trillion to the debt, not the whole amount that the right-wingers want to lob about."
3. You're being disingenuous. There are arguments that put that number between 900 billion dollars to 4.7 trillion dollars. This is too complicated to claim accuracy by any side. What's clear is that he's unable to work with Congress to get a handle on it. You can blame either side for this debacle; however, re-electing a President that can't get Congress to work with him even on minor issues bodes greater damage to our country's future on bigger issues instead of giving another person a chance at getting something possibly accomplished.
"One of the three GOP candidates has vowed to rule America with Judeo-Christian Sharia Law."
4. Hyperbole never wins in a debate much less leads to a healthy discussion. What you accuse Ms. Turley-Hansen of is what you've done in your column yourself - a "hack job."
Good luck to you.
In_God_We_Trust posted at 7:19 am on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.
Almost exactly one year ago – with Donald Trump on top of presidential polls and author Jerome Corsi on top of Amazon’s best-seller list, both for asking where President Barack Obama’s “real” birth certificate was – Judith Corley, the president’s personal attorney, flew to Hawaii. She went there to pick up two certified copies of the president’s long-form birth certificate from the Hawaii Department of Health.
At least, that’s what then-White House Counsel Robert Bauer told us last April 27 at a White House press briefing called to unveil the new, certified document. Multiple copies were passed out to the press, while NBC’s Savannah Guthrie became the one witness I know of to touch the certified document. (She reported she “felt the raised seal.”) A computer image of this Obama long-form birth certificate appeared on the White House website, where now you and I can download it for ourselves as proof of the president’s bona fides.
Or is it?
It is this same Internet image that the Cold Case Posse, a group of lawyers and former law enforcement professionals assembled by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to vet Obama’s identity documents, has concluded is most likely a forgery. At its March 1 press conference, the posse further explained that it believed the online image originated as a computer file. In other words, a paper document did not exist before the image appeared on the White House website.
If the posse’s mind-blowing findings are correct, what is it that Judith Corley couriered back to Washington? And what is it that Savannah Guthrie touched?
I find such questions most intriguing – even if the rest of the media do not – particularly after last week’s court hearing into Obama’s eligibility to appear on the ballot in the New Jersey presidential primary. After literally dozens of such eligibility cases since 2008 (evidently, the media are waiting for a discernible story trend to emerge before they pounce), I can report, having watched a video of the New Jersey hearing online, that the president’s team is making progress. Only now it’s away from his long-form birth certificate.
The curious fact is, President Obama’s attorney, Alexandra Hill, couldn’t have been more adamant about not citing the online birth certificate as a means of proving the president’s identity in this recent challenge – and after everyone went to so much trouble to get it! Indeed, she called the Internet image “legally irrelevant,” arguing that New Jersey law doesn’t specifically call for a birth certificate to qualify a presidential candidate for the ballot.
Exactly how a presidential candidate demonstrates he is at least 35 years old and “natural born,” the constitutional requirement New Jersey upholds, Hill didn’t say, but Administrative Law Judge Jeff Masin found her arguments persuasive to the point of preventing an expert witness from offering testimony that the online image is a forgery.
Even though the Obama team entered no documentation of the president’s identity into the record – not even that “certified” birth document Obama’s personal lawyer traveled so far to retrieve – Judge Masin managed to find that the president was both born in Hawaii and “natural born.”
Neat, huh? But note the shift in legal tactics. If, in New Jersey, the online birth certificate was “legally irrelevant,” in January’s Georgia eligibility hearing, the president’s lawyer, Michael Jablonski, considered it legally decisive. Jablonski cited “the documents evidencing the birth of President Obama” that are available online to try to quash a subpoena that “commanded” Obama to come to court and bring “any and all birth records” with him (among other documents).
A golden opportunity to show off that certified, hand-couriered birth doc from Hawaii, and be done with it, no? No. When Administrative Law Judge Michael Malihi refused to quash the subpoena, Jablonski and Obama ignored it. They just didn’t show up. Not to worry: Flouted subpoena and all, and without any evidence from the Obama team, Judge Malihi found that the president was both born in Hawaii and “natural born,” too.
Amazing how that works, and no matter what the president’s lawyers do – so long as they don’t enter tangible evidence of the president’s identity into the court record.
As for that new birth certificate that came online last April? Since government and media have abdicated their responsibility to help determine whether it’s the real McCoy or a forgery, what else is there to do but wish it a happy first birthday?
onerebel posted at 9:38 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.
Your the one that's doing the hack job Jason. Re-elect President Obama, who will continue to hand out entitlements to those that refuse to work on the backs of those who do work. Buying votes at the expense of the working class, and future generations. Increasing our debt even more, and where did you ever came up with only 1 trillion dollars more debt added? Must be Liberal math. Who do you think they are talking about when they mention a creator ? ( I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever.
Thomas Jefferson). OOPS did one of the founders mention GOD?
OH that's right your a Liberal you think Obama is god. Maybe Jason is just upset because they canceled the weekly Liberal save a frog kill a baby meeting.[wink]
Dale Whiting posted at 8:33 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.
Hi, Leon,
Apparently you still have yet to read Roe v. Wade.
Step one in your argument is to convince us that life begins at conception. I believe that it does, but I understand that many others do not. Historically society has not held that belief. It's relatively recent. And since my belief is based upon religion, and as you will note above, I do not wish to mandate my religious beliefs on others, I cannot sustain your argment when it is made in the political/law making/law enforcing environment. But apparently you have no problem with merging religious beliefs with state practices. You do not sustain all parts of the First Amendment. You want to force your values on others using the law and the power of the state, taking away from them their freedom of choice. Are you a Communist? You act like one!
Leon Ceniceros posted at 7:15 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.
So women of today have the right to practise "unprotected sex". They have the right to conceive and then to murder the baby that they have conceived. Fetal life is of no consequence, just a mass of bloody human tissue.
6,000,000 of these "worthless" masses of human tissue have been aborted in the US alone since 1970 when Roe vs Wade was narrowly passed in the Supreme Court.
These "feminists" who by their own choice of having "unprotected sex".....have murdered more human life than the Nazi's did in the Holocaust.
These "femi-nazi's" are now critisizing "stay at Home Moms" who chose to give birth to their children as being ......OUT OF STEP WITH THE MODERN WORLD.
WERE THE NAZI'S OUT OF STEP WITH THE MODERN WORLD WHEN THEY MURDERED 6,000,000 JEWS, GYPSIES, HOMOSEXUALS, SLAVS AND THE MENTALLY RETARDED....I THINK THE NUREMBURG TRIALS PROVED TO THE WORLD THAT THEY WERE....IT'S CALLED....."CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY".
Dale Whiting posted at 6:20 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.
Opps, "your piece" and "fathom why".
Dale Whiting posted at 6:18 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.
Wow, Jason, at 1172 words, you piece demonstrates that our new editor is more flexible on length.
I find it odd that Linda supports these issues for two closely related reasons. First, yours, that denying people choice seems anti-conservative. But then going further in this same direction is the second, forcing us to choose based upon religion [which she does not necessarily cite for authority, but it's there none the less].
Linda and I share the same faith. We are both Mormons. I value things concistently with that faith, but value a principle of that faith that very darn few other Mormons seem to value. The principle is " free choice," the absolute necessity to choose to do what is right and not be compelled to chose wisely. I cannot fathom way other Mormons wish to have laws passed which make others choose, when this principle of free choice was a fundamental, if not the fundamental principle upon which we view the world was founded.
Would some Mormon out there explain this to me? "VofReason," I surmise that you are a Mormon, too. Why do you support forcing others to choose and not permit them to make wrong choices? Was it not compulsion which separated the bad guys from the good guys? If you support passing laws which compel behavior, aren't you a bad guy?
In_God_We_Trust posted at 5:03 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.
http://www.therightperspective.org/2012/04/15/obama-lawyer-admits-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/
A crushing situation is emerging for, not only Barack Obama, but also for the American people as a landmark statement has been made by the Obama administration that is going to turn the entire 2012 Presidential race and potentially much more on its head.
Lawyers representing the current sitting President of the United States of America have been forced, under penalty of perjury, to admit that the long-form birth certificate presented by the White House in April of 2011 is a total forgery.
In a NJ ballot access eligibility case spawned by Tea Party activists, attorneys representing Obama had to admit the document presented to the American people by Obama himself is actually knowingly faked and was used to fool the American public into believing a complete fabrication.
What could be the most shocking aspect of the situation, however, may be the fact that Obama and his attorneys have crafted an argument that truly boggles the mind.
In a direct assault on everything the citizens of the USA take for granted, in layman’s terms, his attorneys literally made the argument during a hearing on April 10th that because the document was so obviously faked and could not possibly be considered proof of citizenship, the document itself should not be allowed as evidence in the case.
Obama is now basically asserting that only a legitimate document should be allowed as evidence in this case and therefore this one should be thrown out due to the fact that it’s not real. The Judge agreed.
In what may turn out to be one of the biggest scandals in the history of the United States, the Obama administration itself has now virtually admitted to High Crimes and Misdemeanors and to deceiving the public into believing a lie that was ironically intended to distract awareness from the actual issue that truly determines his eligibility, or lack thereof.
Even though now it has become evident that Obama cannot prove he was born in the Unites States after all, even before that admission in court, it was already known that he was not actually eligible to become either Vice President or President, due to the fact that Obama is not a “Natural Born” Citizen.
Although presenting the fake birth certificate to the American people was an attempt to falsely prove his automatic eligibility, even prior to the ‘President’s’ issuance of the fabricated document to the public last spring, attorneys arguing against his eligibility since 2007 proved that Obama was simply ineligible due to the fact that only one of his parents was a US citizen.
Ironically, arguments have been made against this age-old constitutional mandate with regard to Obama’s eligibility by using John McCain’s ’08 eligibility situation as an example, while missing the fact that even McCain’s parents were both born in the USA and therefore was ultimately allowed to run for office, even though he was born on a US military base in Panama.
This simply isn’t the case for Obama, aside from the fact that his administration has now admitted to open criminal activity and blatant ineligibility on multiple fronts.
Daily Pen Editor, Pen Johannson released a story Monday in a devastating editorial explaining the circumstances as one that is sure to set off a firestorm of controversy and could end up creating a gigantic constitutional and legislative nightmare of epic proportions in the weeks and months to come.
Brace yourself folks, it’s bound to get a little bumpy.