Hunting animals is so senseless. “Wild animals,” as we call them, spend every day of their lives searching for food and struggling to survive. Then guess what? Hunting season opens.
I talk to lots of people who just don’t understand why others treat animals the way they do. People harass, abuse, torture, and kill animals all over the world, 24/7. Just in the U.S., billions of animals are slaughtered every year just to satisfy our appetites. Why would someone think his/her wonderful life is more important than an animal’s life is to the animal?
Animals show love, fear, sorrow, joy, etc. They shy away from people, yet we interfere.
People should speak out when they see any abuse or neglect and not allow any animal to suffer. Take a stand and be their voice. When we start treating all animals with respect, the whole world will change.
Kimberly Miller
Fountain Hills
Engaged Voter posted at 5:06 pm on Thu, Sep 20, 2012.
As a volunteer animal rescuer, I have seen firsthand the neglect, abuse, and just plain apathy that many of my fellow East Valley residents have shown to animals.
Many of them justify their inhumane treatment of these creatures because their religious dogma states emphatically that they are "souless", and were put here specifically for "our use".
I call these charlatans out whenever I encounter them...even on these forums!
And for those who would disparage my actions, please note that the following quotes show I am in good company. ;)
"I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it."
-Abraham Lincoln
"He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." -Immanuel Kant
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." --Ghandi
And GET THIS!!! From the Bible itself! (so much for using religion as a cover)
"A righteous man has regard for the life of his beast." - Proverbs 12:10
onerebel posted at 8:03 pm on Thu, Sep 20, 2012.
Kimberly, I will assume by your letter your a vegetarian. I find it interesting that some people will criticize hunters while they are eating a hamburger. I was raised on a ranch where we always had animals,and hunted for food. I think the cat and dog had it better then I did because they weren't expected to work for their food. People that abuse animals for fun are weak pathetic individuals. I currently have 2 canine family members, 1 being a rescued dog that had been abused. Engaged, it does appear we have one thing in common. I'm not sure where you get your extreme bitterness for people of faith but I do feel much of it is misguided. Many people of faith volunteer and support many causes, my daughter has signed up to volunteer at a local animal shelter in Tucson, and I give time helping children. To stereotype any group, be it gay or Christian, I feel it's wrong!
chatmandu002 posted at 9:35 am on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
Oh the horror of it all....
Engaged Voter posted at 11:08 am on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
First off, thank you onerebel - this is the first response to one of my posts not filled with infantile jabs and insults...I appreciate that.
I agree, many people of faith do good things. I have never claimed otherwise.
However, your statement about stereotyping is way off. Being gay isn't a conscious choice, like becoming a member of a group. Being a Christian IS a conscious choice to become a member of a group. And if that group has silly, or misogynist, or racist, or bigoted "rules", then I can call out any member of the group that they CHOSE to join.
Tell me, is it wrong to stereotype every member of the Ku Klux Klan as a racist?
Engaged Voter posted at 11:10 am on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
I get the feeling chatmandu is the type of person who swerves to hit the dog on the side of the road rather than stop to see if it's hurt.
Ironic that the word INHUMAN is almost always applied to actions by humans.
Slabside posted at 1:29 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
@ Engaged Voter, " thank you onerebel - this is the first response to one of my posts not filled with infantile jabs and insults"
@ Engaged Voter, " I get the feeling chatmandu is the type of person who swerves to hit the dog on the side of the road rather than stop to see if it's hurt."
Have you ever wondered why other posters take shots at you?
mrconservative posted at 1:36 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
I love meat. Animals eat other animals. Why can't we?
Animals were put on the earth for our benefit. Even Jesus ate meat when He was on earth. He also gave a bunch of fish to the 5,000 and 4,000. I know that some people might not consider fish to be meat, but I do.
Slabside posted at 1:57 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
Kimberly Miller does not understand that without hunting seasons, game animal populations would grow unchecked. The animals would be over grazing in their habitats and then the starving begins.
Engaged Voter posted at 4:52 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
"Have you ever wondered why other posters take shots at you? "
Nope, I don't spend time wondering about other people's ignorance and bigotry.
(you DID notice my comment was a RESPONSE to an idiotic comment, right??)
Forget hunting - how about the pigeon shoots (only legal now in PA) where, after the spineless dorks are done blasting away at helpless birds, the carcasses are gathered up and thrown in the trash, including many birds that are still alive.
(and if you're going to call this hunting..................)
Engaged Voter posted at 4:54 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
"Animals were put on the earth for our benefit."
Thank you, mrconservative, for proving my point that some immoral people hide their cruel treatment of animals behind their superstitious beliefs.
"Even Jesus ate meat when He was on earth."
Until you can prove he even existed, please stop with the false claims.
Your continued lies and false claims just makes you look more and more like a compulsive liar.
Engaged Voter posted at 5:27 pm on Fri, Sep 21, 2012.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKZWfpjqeKA
If watching this DOESN'T make you ill, you are an immoral person.
onerebel posted at 8:53 pm on Sat, Sep 22, 2012.
" this is the first response to one of my posts not filled with infantile jabs and insults...I appreciate that." Engaged, Was that suppose to be a compliment or a jab?
As for the stereotyping I stand by what I said. When SOME people think of gays they think they are all the flamboyant type you see in a parade in San Francisco. I have friends that are gay, they are very private, and just the opposite of that. Not every environmentalist are like the ones that cut down ski lift towers or put nails in trees to hurt lumberjacks. Even some PETA members have done some very unethical things, however I would be wrong to say ALL member of PETA are unethical. The Ku Klux Klan or the Black Panthers would be a different story, you join those because you hate certain groups of people.
Leon Ceniceros posted at 11:35 am on Sun, Sep 23, 2012.
YOU CAN USE THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT THE LETTER WRITER USES IN REGARDS TO THE ................MURDERING OF HUMAN FETUSES BY THE ...FEMI-NAZI'S.
THE "GOOD BOOK" (THAT'S THE BIBLE TO YOU...DEMOCRATS, SOCIALISTS, COMMUNISTS AND LIBERALS).......CLEARLY STATES THAT THE BIRDS, THE FISH AND THE ANIMALS WERE PUT ON THIS EARTH FOR MAN'S CONSUMATION. HUNTING IS JUST ONE WAY OF BRINGING THIS ABOUT.
HUMAN BEINGS ARE..........."SUPERIOR".....TO BIRDS, FISH AND ANIMALS.
EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO AND MARINATE THE BEAUTIFUL MOURNING AND WHITE-WING DOVES THAT A FRIEND KILLED THIS PAST ..."DOVE SEASON".
I MARINATE THEM IN SOME SAKE, SOY SAUCE AND FRESH ORANGE JUICE....THEN ROAST THEM IN A HOT OVER....SOME STEAMED RICE AND A CEASAR SALAD ANY YOU HAVE DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN....MMMMMMM.
Engaged Voter posted at 10:36 am on Mon, Sep 24, 2012.
Funny how mrconservative and his cult buddy Leon can quote the exact phrase I predicted they would, but when I call them out on it, they get my comment deleted.
It speaks volumes when certain groups censor a truthful statement.
Oh I'm sorry onerebel, am I stereotyping again? ;)
Save your "hunting" semantics for the author, I have no problem with hunting - as long as you eat what you kill.
VofReason posted at 1:11 pm on Mon, Sep 24, 2012.
Does anyone think abusing animals is a good thing? I am going to say no and that most people would be aghast if they saw someone abusing animals. I am not a hunter, but I don't see anything wrong with someone who hunts and either eats or donates the meat. Hunting for trphy seems senseless to me. I too will wonder what the authors feeling are on abortion. The fetus clearly has no choice- no?
mharner posted at 11:32 pm on Mon, Sep 24, 2012.
To weigh the argument against hunting, one must adequately consider the only alternative which is agriculture. While I bear no grudge against agriculture, I am at least aware of the environmental damage it creates and would point this out to any who pretend that eating cultivated beef, broccoli or beets is an environmentally sensitive alternative. The conversion of millions of acres of wild lands to vast monocultures incapable of supporting any wildlife whatsoever strikes me as insensitive. Dumping millions of tons of pesticides into our air, water and soil and diverting billions of gallons of water annually from sensitive aquatic ecosystems hardly seems praiseworthy, and destroying entire ecosystems in order to raise one's preferred species seems a bit like playing God. In comparison, regulated hunting and fishing have little or no impact on habitat and non-target species. They are the ultimate forms of organic farming, where even the species produced are left to natural forces, not human choice. And to pretend that hunting is comparatively cruel is to ignore the crush of the plough and the starvation that inevitably befalls the "lucky" survivors of its initial onslaught. Cultivated lands remain environmental wastelands for the duration of their existence, and so it would take a pretty slick lawyer to argue the merit of agriculture. Furthermore, it is unacceptable to feign ignorance of this damage or excuse it as unintentional when it is in fact a necessary and entirely predicable outcome of one's consumption habits. I am amazed at the number of supermarket shoppers gliding down the grocery aisle with never a thought for the destruction they wreak, yet with ready criticism for the hunters who take their sustenance in a renewable manner from wild lands they are motivated to protect.
Read more: http://www.care2.com/causes/republicans-take-aim-at-mrs-deer-hunters.html#ixzz27SZNdVtC
Engaged Voter posted at 12:45 pm on Wed, Sep 26, 2012.
"Does anyone think abusing animals is a good thing?"
According to the comments left by chatmandu and mrconservative, they either think it''s a good thing, or are apathetic to it (which is just as bad).
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
- Edmund Burke
KM posted at 9:49 am on Thu, Oct 4, 2012.
According to the prophet Hosea, God says, "I will make a covenant on behalf of Israel with the wild beasts, the birds of the air, and the things that creep on the earth, and I will break every bow and sword and weapon of war and sweep them off the earth so that all living creatures may lie down without living in fear."
People use the Bible as an excuse to slaughter and eat the flesh of animals. Hunters bait, track, and kill wildlife as if they are doing the abundance of a species a favor. Animals manage very well without the interference of superior intelligence.
Game "management" programs are actually game "propagation" programs designed not to reduce or restrict the animals' numbers but to fool desirable species into overpopulating by shooting only males and protecting females so they continue to propagate. If disaster strikes, a doe will actually absorb her fetus. Game management operates so much to the detriment of animals. In hunting magazines, hunters describe the most benign animals as wild, terrifying, threatening, and oversized, rather than as timid beings that flee for their lives at the first hint of a human carrying heavy artillery – just another heinous atrocity.