Turley-Hansen: The buck stops with Sheriff Joe
Linda Turley-Hansen
East Valley resident Linda Turley-Hansen (turleyhansen@gmail.com) is a syndicated columnist and former Phoenix veteran TV anchor.
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DavidNichols posted at 3:41 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
Yes Mrs. Turley Hansen Pearce and Arpaio have much in common, they are both Racist Tyrants, that have both been photographed with Neo Nazi's, they have both been instrumental in Crashing not only Arizona, however the Nation, they are largely responsible for the new found Racism, and Hatred which has spread across America.
Maricopa County has over a half million vacant Homes since the January 2008 start of these Tyrants Anti Immigrant Rant.
The Russell Pearce (Former Arpaio Deputy's) E-verify Law, the I.C.E. Deportation Program, and of course "The Worst Recession in U.S. History", all began together January 2008.
This is No Coincidence Sister Latter Day Saint Turley Hansen!
"America is great because it is good, when it ceases to be good, it ceases to be great."
Alex De Tocqueville
Over Five Thousand legal Hispanic Children are now in Foster Care with their Parents Deported away from them.
Over Forty Two Thousand Hispanioc Human Beings now lie Dead at the Harsh U.S. Mexico Border wher I.C.E. has Deported/Dumped Hundreds of Thousands into the middle of a known "Drug War", with nothing, not even water, to be killed, or to die of the elements.
Yet you support Racist, and yes there Neo Nazi Pals.
You are a true Saint Mrs Turley Hansen.
There is as John Mc Cain said; a warm corner in Hell for Tyrants, please enjoy.
Choose the Right Mrs. Turley Hansen?
The right Racist?
You sit in Church Tomorrow and Pretend to be Good.
You are wasting your time.
Mike McClellan posted at 4:28 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
Ms. Turley-Hansen is more incoherent than usual here, with a frenzied "defense"of the Sheriff, which consists mostly of name-calling his opponents.
One question, Ms. Turley-Hansen: As a woman, how do you feel about the more than 400 sexual assaults the MCSO failed to investigate, in part because the Sheriff diverted officers to "crime suppression" sweeps?
Accuracy posted at 5:43 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
Linda Turley-Hansen,
You article clearly brings out that Liberal Randy Parraz, Ruben Gallego, Steve Gallardo, Kyrsten Sinema, Congress members Ed Pastor and Raul Grijalva, and other elected Liberal Democrats are out to get Sheriff Joe Arpaio removed before the November election.
They are all “open border activists” who reek of political opportunism and partisanship, and they oppose the sheriff's enforcement of illegal immigration laws.
Randy Parraz, bragging about his success of the Pearce recall, claims Sheriff Joe is secretly worried about his political future because Arizona has changed with a historic recall that transformed people. He has announced the Liberal group is seeking Arpaio's resignation. Sheriff Joe Arpaio has rejected the calls for his resignation, and says he isn’t afraid of Parraz. “Why should I worry about him?” Arpaio said.
Sheriff “Joe” also announced he'll run for a sixth term as Maricopa County sheriff in the November election.
Gerry_C posted at 5:57 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
"Despite controversy, Joe remains popular as millions count on "zero tolerance" law enforcement to keep them safe."
Where does the 'zero tolerance' come in? I have never seen Arpaio be any more than a sanctuary Sheriff that allows crimes to go un-investigated?
Rich posted at 6:19 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
Something over 400 little girls probably don't agree with you Linda.
Gerry_C posted at 7:54 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
It strikes me odd Linda, that your title is The buck stops with Sheriff Joe." Nowhere in your piece do you discuss that concept. It is almost laughable because Sheriff Joe has repeatedly said that the buck does not stop with him. He has very clearly stated that "I can't be responsible for this when I was not involved." or "I delegated that to my Chief Deputy so I am not to blame." The buck never seems to stop with Sheriff Joe. Certainly, lawsuit payouts don't stop with him. The buck really stops with us that pay Municipal, Maricopa County, State, and Federal taxes.
Slabside posted at 8:15 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
Linda, very good editorial. Thank you!
DaveKAz posted at 9:26 pm on Sat, Jan 7, 2012.
I don't think that anyone has to have or to give up conservative values to enforce the law and to care that people are treated in a manner that is consistent with the constitution. I don't think that you have to be tolerant or intolerant to enforce immigration laws. I do think that you are not a good sheriff when you divert 100 million dollars of your budget into prohibited areas and when you do not enforce child sexual abuse laws to enforce other laws that bring you more publicity. I don't think that you have to treat everyone that does not speak English as you would treat the Taliban. I am disappointed that our relationship with Mexico is soured by Joe Arpaio who cares more about using his position to garner political influence over the border issue than he cares about the people involved. I do care when public safety is effected. Sheriff Joe must go.
Dale Whiting posted at 4:55 am on Sun, Jan 8, 2012.
Come on Linda!
"open border activists and business people who exploit cheap labor!" Such rhetoric is unbefitting a dignified Saint like yourself. Advocating that fourth amendment rights be honored is not the same thing as advocating for open borders. Nor is advocating for a set of solutions which address maintaining family unity. And Saints are all about maintaining families, or at least Jon Huntsman is. And should you so distain business people who exploit cheap labor, try boycotting their services. You can give up on eating lettuce, oranges, grapefruit, strawberries, to name a few. Why even Mitt Romney hires illegal aliens to mow his lawn. Are you into mowing laws? And for Heaven's sake, don't get all worked up on the Utah Compact! You'll have to altogether stop going to church!
To many, "zero tolerance" law enforcement to keep them safe" includes keeping minorities safe from unconstitutional intrusions into their right of privacy. Safe includes more than one aspect of life. On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being ideal and 10 being lynched, invasion of privacy is about a 5! Freedom from overly agressive law enforcment efforts, particularly those aimed primarily if not exclusively at gaining press coverage comes at a cost. What Sheriff Joe lacks is a sense of balance. He'll invate minorities' privacy so as to insure his re-election and that's not a balance anyone should support.
How's your balance, Linda? Just what are your values? They don't appear to have much in common with mine?
sockratties posted at 11:19 am on Sun, Jan 8, 2012.
Tribune editors probably titled your commentary. If not, then you and Joe have a different idea of what Harry Truman's desk sign meant. Sheriff Joe hasn't accepted responsibility for any criticism yet. He either denies or diverts. Teflon Joe.
I actually would like to keep Joe as Sheriff, if only he would do the job he was elected to do. The theater alone is worth the price, but he needs to handle cases on the table. If he only follows up and solves less than 20% of crime cases he's not doing that job well. Response times by MCSO are said to be slow and follow up poor.
Joe gets a bad rap for felony warrant serving although he did disband his full time warrant serving program. Arizona law does not hold him responsible for serving warrants other than those of MCSO which he does with little backlog.
His fixation on illegal immigration has distracted MCSO and the public. Our sheriff's methods and grandstanding give a clear indication that his primary target is the people, not the activity. There is a narrow difference between the two. He could claim he is doing his job by going after criminals, which would stand scrutiny, but he should be enforcing the law by suppressing crime. He has rounded up hundreds of illegal aliens but few who are responsible for transport and hiring have been charged. It has the effect of arresting drug users but not the pushers. The wrong people go to jail and there will always be another addict or illegal immigrant.
Arpaio has invaded both the towns of Guadalupe and Mesa, without their permission or consent. The sheriff posse is made up of all volunteer members who are attracted to such activities. Arpaio is running for another term as sheriff of Maricopa County. If elected, he plans to continue his policies. He told Lou Dobbs in an interview that “being called the Ku Klux Klan is an honor.”
To date Maricopa County has paid out $43 million in private lawsuits against MCSO. That's a high price for the capture and retaining of a minimum wage janitor or fast food worker. I feel safer already.
Ring of Gyges posted at 1:11 pm on Sun, Jan 8, 2012.
Mrs. Hansen takes most of the content of this editorial straight from the Arpiao book of pejoratives, hyperbole, and catch phrases.
1) Protect Arizona's borders
2) Mexican cartels setting up shop in our neighborhoods.
3) Pearce's tough law-making
4) progressive "organizers"
5) secure open borders,
6) Chicago-style labor unions (as opposed to Sheboygan style).
7) inflated social programs (example?)
8) socialism
9) conservative values
10) educated at Berkeley and Harvard
11) zero tolerance
samkat posted at 3:53 pm on Sun, Jan 8, 2012.
Dale: Why should be not be advocating family unity by providing the necessary means for the entire family to leave together? I failed to note your concern for our military members who have forced separations. I, for one, have more empathy for them. Individuals who commit a crime and are sentenced to prison certainly have a forced separation. What is the recourse for them? Do we allow them to remain free because they would incur the pain of a forced family separation?
As far as forgoing fruits and vegetables, I am sure that you are aware that a significant amount of our fruits and vegetables are imported. The apple I ate yesterday came from Chile, the mango I had came from Mexico and the list goes on and on. Trucks are lined up at every Mexican/U.S. port of entry bringing in fruits and vegetables. Our farmers have the means to petition for farm labor by processing the proper paperwork. The business owner who needs a dishwasher and cannot find one available in the U.S. can process the paperwork to bring in a foreign worker so there is no need to hire an illegal.
Now, I would agree with you that we need stronger E-Verify rules as well as other measures to deny employment and social services. We definitely need stronger employer sanctions. Deny them jobs and they will voluntarily leave of their own accord.
I am not sure that it is impossible to avoid racial profiling when even the Mexican government acknowledged in the Arizona Republic article a couple a weeks ago that they have an estimated 520,000 citizens living in Arizona alone. This does not include the other Hispanics here illegally. I believe that the last report indicated we have an estimated 1.5 million Hispanics in Arizona so it would appear that with such a large population of illegals, racial profiling is unavoidable so some degree. How do you propose we eliminate the illegals or are they considered a protected species?
It certainly is not economically feasible to allow them to continue to flood into our country unabated. Is it racial profiling when a policeman stops a white person and asks for ID or stops them for a traffic violation? If the individual turns out to be an illegal, is that racial profiling or is it simply an inconvenience because they might have a lighter skin? By the way, what excuse for racial profiling does the open borders crowd have when the Mexican has white skin and yes there are light skinned Mexicans as well as other Hispanics?
I say treat them humanely as they are being processed for deportation to their home country. Beyond that, we owe them nothing.
k33j88 posted at 5:48 am on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.
Finally a voice of reason and common sense. Thank you Linda for telling it the way it is. Would any of the progressives(liberals) here wish to trim my bushes while the illegal cuts the neighbors lawn? You can then see up close and personal the laws being enforced when the sheriffs arrive. I'll bring a chair for you, Dale.[smile]
CooperG posted at 10:56 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.
Linda STILL fails to hold Arpaio accountable for the wasted $150 million, 10 jailhouse deaths at the hands of his deputies, illegal investigations that will result in the former County Attorney being disbarred, the SCA scandal, the Jails Fund scandal, and 432 un-investigated sex crimes against women and children.and the arrests of her colleagues.
Randy Parraz followed the laws and Constitution of the state of Arizona TO THE LETTER. Joe Arpaio has not. Every legal challenge to the CBA has been discarded. You can't say the same about Arpaio.
Turley-Hansen is simply trying to divert attention from Arpaio's outrageous behavior to someone who has followed the law. Arpaio is the one under investigation because of the things we know have occurred. He has no one to blame but himself.
Accuracy posted at 1:09 pm on Tue, Jan 10, 2012.
Randy Parraz was bragging again as being the leader of the Nov. 8 recall election against State Senate President Russell Pearce when he, and other protesters, gathered for the 2012 opening of Arizona Legislature at the Capitol.
This time, Parraz delivered a oversize card to Pierce, saying that he and the immigration advocates had not received a thank-you card from Pierce, so they are sending him a "you're welcome" card instead.
Parraz, and the “Open Border” group, are also now setting sights on Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio and Governor Jan Brewer.
In their Sheriff Joe has to go criticism, Parraz has stated before; "By the time we're done with him he won't be able to be elected."
But, “Open Border” demonstrators, who have publicly spoken out against Arpaio’s policies, will not stop his re-election in November.
Arizona Willie posted at 9:10 am on Wed, Jan 11, 2012.
There has been over 1 million people go through Sheriff Joe's facilities.
They claim there are 4 million people in the Phoenix area ( not counting invading aliens ).
That means that close to one out of four people have enjoyed Sheriff Joe's hospitality.
So when you are reading a post on the Internet and in the Arizona Republic or the East Valley Tribune, keep in mind that not everyone is as good a person as you are.
Many of the people who are so critical Sheriff Joe are so critical because they didn't enjoy their stay in Joe's jail.
A few of them were even innocent.
So when you read posts raging about Sheriff Joe, keep in mind that there is a very good possibility that person was a recipient of Sheriff Joe's hospitality.
Rich posted at 2:44 pm on Wed, Jan 11, 2012.
"That means that close to one out of four people have enjoyed Sheriff Joe's hospitality."
In other words one in four people in the supermarket today were criminals? Now that is one of the best arguments against gun control I've ever heard. Especially when the police don't investigate rape and over half the murderers aren't caught.
Arizona Willie posted at 3:30 pm on Wed, Jan 11, 2012.
Well, Rich, it's sort of a neighborhood thing also. There are areas of town where the average isn't 1 / 4 and there are areas of town where the average is 2.5 / 4 or worse.
Depends on the neighborhood.
And, just having involuntarily visited Sheriff Joe's jail system, doesn't make one a life long criminal.
People manage to get arrested for all kinds of reasons.
Even just having a party too loud and being a bit on the drunk side when the officers come to the house to ask you to tone down the party and you give them some lip. You can wind up in the pokey.
Doesn't necessarily make a person a real bad criminal.
But we do need to remember, when discussing things on the internet, that not everyone is totally honest. Anyone can go to the library and use the computers and get an email address and post .
I was just calling attention to the fact because we tend to just blindly accept people and what they say and we usually have no idea who that person we are talking to really is.
Heck, I could be the Son of Sam's assistant. Who knows?
But, I believe many / most of the people who get on the internet and rage about Joe have had unpleasant experiences. And they usually won't come out and say they spent six weeks in Tent City or anything lie that.
pau lin az posted at 4:54 pm on Thu, Mar 15, 2012.
listen joe is following the law,remember when he arrested illegals at mesa's police station, where was e-verify there. the illegals show have to take there kids with them, that law needs to be changed . we spend millions in schools, added hospitals,social programs, crime, when are the bleedingn heart liberals going to wake up. I wish he would run for President,He doesn't take any bologna from anybody, who else can you say that about
ThatsjustmeSandy posted at 6:41 pm on Sat, Jul 21, 2012.
I like Sheriff Joe. We know bad guys don't. Thats why I like him. Go Joe!
downtownresident posted at 5:04 pm on Fri, Aug 17, 2012.
Remember Olivia Cortez. The illegitimate political sham child of Greg Western.
Remember where Russell's money came from? Not here, but from OUTSIDE ARIZONA Linda, remember?
Remember the "Arizona 'Teachers' Association" a poorly disguised group of law breaking fanatics.
Remember that the Mormon cult sticks together and does as they are told.
Linda, be ashamed. If you have a conscience!!!!
mikedurham posted at 3:53 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.
I stopped reading Linda's comments when she informed everyone about the cartels in our neighborhoods. I am now waiting for Linda to list specifically by name and local leader which cartels are in which neighborhoods. The neighborhoods need to be descibed by Linda by stating the bounding streets. She needs to lit the cartel members in those specified neighborhoods by name along with the dates of their criminal activity. She needs to do this immediately from her notes in order to report to MCSO of those cartel activities. Sheriff Arpaio is required by Arizona statute to bring those people before a judge. I would like to then compare her specifics that she should have to make such a statement to the claims of sexual assault which were not investigated. Tomorrow is good. If she cannot produce such a list and reports for the protection of neighborhoods, then she owes readers an apology for her claim.
mikedurham posted at 4:11 pm on Sat, Mar 2, 2013.
A similar comprehensive list of businesses and business owners yet unreported to MCSO is welcomed as well.