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Richardson: Arpaio’s ‘faux apology’ doesn’t cut it

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40 comments:

  • mrconservative posted at 12:55 pm on Mon, Jul 2, 2012.

    mrconservative Posts: 398

    If Gordy Gartner ran for sheriff in Maricopa County, I would definitely vote for him over Arpaio. Though since he doesn't live in our county, I don't think he'd be eligible.

     
  • mrconservative posted at 8:54 pm on Sun, Jul 1, 2012.

    mrconservative Posts: 398

    Bill, it is my opinion that Arpaio is doing a fairly decent job. Not a perfeect job, of course, but then, who could do a perfect job?

    About those sex crimes he didn't investigate, well, are you aware that he is doing all he can right now to investigate them? It takes more than one person to investigate those crimes.

    He has to enforce all laws, true, but he has far too few deputies to do a near-perfect job. I would support him over any nutcase who wants to close Tent City. Sure, it's hot there, but what did those inmates expect when they commited those crimes? A hotel suite? He got rid of many bad things in the jails, including pornographic material. No jail inmate deserves any nicties. They should be made as miserable as possble so they when they are released, they will not want to come back.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 6:45 pm on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.

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    It's clear there's more than one thing we will never see "eye to eye" on....

     
  • lbabeu posted at 1:51 pm on Tue, Dec 27, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Masterrogue666,
    Just one last thing I liked to say concerning fox news which gave yourself away. If you watch it all the time, my brother Paul has been on there more time than Sheriff Joe. Paul is a regular on there, so you may not know him personally but he has the same views as Sheriff Joe. So, you know full well who I am and who Paul is and what we are dealing with here. Just because I am a rape victim does not make me unaware to the politics that go on here. Fox caters to fake people like my brother and Sheriff Joe who don't care about rape victims or violating people's basic human rights. Love Sheriff Joe all you want. It will get you no were but a fake screen name. Like I say to Paul, come out of the closet. Put your name on the line like Bill and on. You have no right asking him any question when you attack and say he is negative. My name is Lucy Babeu and I stand with all the People that have been raped and abused in anyway. So move aside, I am coming through. Lucy Babeu.

     
  • lbabeu posted at 8:42 am on Tue, Dec 27, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Masterrogue666,
    Goodday, I am sorry to say, you are going to have to stand alone in your opinions of Bill and Sheriff Joe. My opinions are totally different than yours and I will stand alone in mine. I have read all of Bills article, and what you claim as negative I claim as the truth. If you do not like Bills columns, do not read them. Sheriff Joe is responsible for anything that happens under him, because he is the top guy whether he likes it or not. Until you have the privelage to report and write like Bill, you are just going to have to live with it. I respect Bill for his reporting, especially in this article because it is a crime not to have done anything with the sex crimes the first time. Bill is qualifield in this area because he worked as a police officer going after the rapists and abusers.That is More than I can say for Sheriff Joe. He had to wait until someone brought it up and than said it will be done.
    As far as Fox news goes, you need to take your blinders off, they only report one way. My brother Paul goes on there all the time because he knows they will report what he wants them to say. Paul is afraid of going to the other reporters because he knows he will be challenged, or if he does go to them, he makes them write their questions down and gets back to them with answers in a week or two.
    I am sorry to say Masterrogue666, but I respect Bill highly for challenging Joe in his writings. Personally, I don't have time to deal with this anymore, I am not going to take yourside in this. You need to stand alone. My respect for Bill, being the very few that will help and write on sex crime, gets my upper most respect. I have been called many names and even have death threats when I try to bring This subject up. So, your concerns about Sheriff Joe mean nothing to me. I hope you understand. Try to look at what you are arguing about : negative comments about Joe vs sex crimes. To me, I cannot do this anymore with you. Bill is my hero on this one. Think about whats important inside of you.. It would make a difference to me. Take care and I still wish you well. Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 11:35 pm on Mon, Dec 26, 2011.

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    Lucy: Until you do read his articles, then you won't see the depth of his negative comments about Sheriff Joe. Check out this article in particular:

    http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/opinion/article_e9e3c5c2-1c4b-11e1-88ab-0019bb2963f4.html

    Bill goes out of his way to, indirectly, to blame Sheriff Joe, when his angst should be directed at those responsible. Sheriff Joe has done quite a bit to help Maricopa County, yet I've yet to read ONE POSITIVE STATEMENT from Bill, and I've been reading his articles for years. Worse, when Gascon made a HUGE MISTAKE, Bill never printed one negative statement.

    That's why I watch Fox News. They usually will state BOTH SIDES of the argument, then perhaps comment on it.

     
  • lbabeu posted at 9:18 am on Mon, Dec 26, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Hi Masterrogue666,
    Hope you are doing well. This is hard for me to get involved in. But, I will give you my stance, in hopes that you will listen and not get upset. Bill has a different opinion about Sheriff Joe than you, so no matter how much you debate him on it,. You will not change his mind. I agree with Bill about Sheriff Joe in how he goes about treating the illegals. Sheriff Joe can do his job on illegal immigrantion but he needs to do it without violating people's basic, human rights. I am sure you can give me example where he is not. Because everyone is not all bad. Most of the time a person that writes the article, will not come over and make a comment unless, in my case when I was also being attacked at first by Leon and in away you.
    Like I tried to say to you before, you are always going to like Sheriff Joe and Bill does not have too. But a debate with both of you with never end.
    Bill has wrote many articles about Sheriff Joe and I hope he continues. I know Sheriff Joe from my brother Paul dealing with him. Paul is just using him for his political gain.
    The first comment you said to Bill, I am glad you said it was true. Maybe you can say sorry to Bill for that attack on him. And maybe someday you can have a debate on the issue of Sheriff Joe. But ,me going back and reading Bills article will not help me. I have respect for Bill as a writer,and a person. Read my first comment that I wrote. So, I may not be the one to ask this question too.
    Masterrogue666, I do wish you well and thanks for the respect comment. I will talk again somewhere. Take care and always have a nice day. Best regards, Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 12:50 am on Mon, Dec 26, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1799

    lbabeu: What you wrote is true. However, in most of Bill's other articles I've made comments without attacking, and they were ignored as well. It's obvious to me that Bill has a great deal of hatred directed towards Sheriff Joe. Like I stated earlier in this column, Bill always seems to put some sort of negative comment, directly or indirectly, towards Sheriff Joe.

    Read some of Bill's other articles, and let me know what you think. I respect your opinion.....

     
  • lbabeu posted at 1:24 pm on Sat, Dec 24, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Hi Masterrogue666,
    Thanks for your well wishes and your understanding my situation.
    I went back and read your first comment to Bill. I think he did not answer you because you started out with a attack about how boring his article was and etc.... Then, I think others like myself were debating you that Sheriff Joe should have processed the sex crimes the first time.
    Bill has the right not to like Sheriff Joe, just like you like him. But, I would not have answered you either the way you started out in you comment. Your approach, just like mine sometimes, we need to change. And then people might debate us. You and I started off on the wrong foot and then I think we ended at least as friendly people that understood each other, wishing each other well, even though we did not agree on all points. I think we can all learn from this article and go away and change are aprroach. I know I learned something from you.You took the time, which most people don't to explain yourself to me, and cleared up the misunderstandings. And that is why it work out. That was great on your part. I thank you for that. Well, again, Take care my friend and Best regards,. Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 11:10 am on Sat, Dec 24, 2011.

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    lbabeu: We agree to disagree, and I can certainly live with that. If you go through all of Bill Richardson's "stories", you'll see that he seems to go out of his way to blame things on Sheriff Joe. I've asked Bill several questions in the comment sections of his articles, but he has never bothered to answer even one. Since it's clear Bill does read poster's comments, I'm curious why he chooses not to debate with me.

    I do understand your point, in that it's like adding salt to a wound. In your case, since family is involved, the trauma is multiplied ten fold. I can only guess what you are going through. For what it's worth, I hope you get the justice that is your due. I hope the rest of your life is full of positive experiences to help balance the negative experiences you have already had. Seasons greetings to you and those you care about.

     
  • lbabeu posted at 3:27 pm on Fri, Dec 23, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Masterrogue666,
    I appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself. I am sorry of a mistake of the sentence that I wanted to direct to Leon about Paul.
    As far as the Illegal immigration, I do not feel like debating that issue with you. I am not here to do that. It will take it's own course now no matter what you or I say or belief.
    I have no contact with any of my family by choice even though my brother Paul has threatened everyone to stay away from me. Believe me, it will catch up to him, even thought he thinks he is too powerful to touch.
    The thing that bothers me the most is the sex crimes were not done the first time, because it means that the rapist where out there committing more sex crimes. That is just the reality of it. I know you say Sheriff Joe is correcting it but a lot of victims may not go through with it now or may not even be alive to testify. I know you believe he will take care of it, but I do not. But, because we disagree, lets just leave it at that. I do thank you for responding and taking the time to explain your side. That means a lot to me. Please know I wish you well and happy holidays to you. Best regards, Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 1:02 pm on Fri, Dec 23, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1799

    @ lbabeu- In answer to your statements:

    1. "Sheriff Joe can do no wrong." -- Incorrect. I already stated: '"I agree that Arpaio should have used a better phrase than "If there were any victims".' I also stated I'm waiting to see what punishment(s) occur to those most DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE. The officers that were directly involved failed to do their job. I think Sheriff Joe is taking steps to correct what has occurred, and prevent a reoccurrence later.

    2. I never stated ONLY ILLEGAL ALIEN supporters are calling for his resignation. I stated that the FIRST TWO persons, that was mentioned when MCSO's failure first hit the news are know PRO ILLEGAL ALIEN advocates. How you tie "fear" into it all is beyond me. I'm not blind, deaf, and dumb. It's called POLITICS, and Sheriff Joe's opponents will seize upon ANY CHANCE to bring him down. As for "bully any Mexican", I don't see your point. ANYONE that makes a traffic infraction can be stopped. This could occur even if SB1070 didn't exist. Heck, I've been stopped myself time and again because I didn't signal, et al. Should I cry profiling? Also, most people don't realize that Sheriff Joe's son married a person of Hispanic ancestry. Maybe you should ask her if Sheriff Joe's like you say. I watched that TV show that reported on female officers of MCSO. One incident I'll always remember is that a driver had his signal on for about 3 miles before the officer stopped the car. The car had VERY DARK TINTED WINDOWS, so it was IMPOSSIBLE to see if the driver was male/female, their nationality, et al. The first thing out of the driver's mouth was "You're profiling me." Funny thing, he said it to an officer that had HISPANIC ancestry. I guess the FACT that he was guilty of what the officer stated never occurred to him. Over 80% of all ILLEGAL ALIENS are Hispanic. There's no getting around that fact.

    3. "I put my name out here, even though I have received death threats from the famous and your beloved friend Paul Babeu". -- First, I've never even met Paul Babeu, so I certainly wouldn't call him my friend. Second, where did you get the notion that we were friends? I didn't even mention him, YOU brought him up. Third, if you are receiving threats, then I'd suggest you gather evidence, and take that information to the County Prosecutor where you reside.

    I can't speak to your homelife, as I only know what you've told me. I don't know your age. However, if you are considered an adult, and it seems to be an ongoing problem, why stay in that house, with that family, as it seems to be what you are doing.

    It's understandable (given what you've stated is the truth) your sensitivity about MCSO's failure. Sheriff Joe is in OVERALL charge of MCSO, but others were in direct control/change of that particular department. The axe should fall on them.

     
  • k33j88 posted at 6:03 am on Fri, Dec 23, 2011.

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    At the risk of sounding "politically incorrect": Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

     
  • k33j88 posted at 6:01 am on Fri, Dec 23, 2011.

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    My heart goes out to all who have been a victim of rape/sexual abuse. There is nothing that I can say to alleviate the pain and continual suffering of those directly involved, not of their accord. My prayers are with the victims, that they may be whole again, without blemish, and stand before our LORD on judgement day. Please be consoled in knowing that the perpetrators will burn in HELL for their evil deeds. They will be held accountable-----Jesus says so. As for Sheriff Joe A., he needs to step up to the plate and prosecute more diligently, but not at the expense of halting our illegal alien disaster.

     
  • lbabeu posted at 8:47 pm on Thu, Dec 22, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Masterrogue666,

    The problem you have, is Sheriff Joe can do no wrong. And It is not all Illegal Alien, as you put it that are asking for his resignation. And as far as coward goes, this is were you both come in, one who shows disgraceful fear, by saying they have their own agenda. That way, you can call it your strong beliefs, and Sheriff Joe can bully any Mexican. And in both your minds it makes it ok.
    Then you think I am out to win and argument and here to strengthen or lessen it. Like I said this is no game. This proves what I said about a game, when you make this statement.about win
    I put my name out here, even though I have received death threats from the famous and your beloved friend Paul Babeu and my dear old daddy. Daddy told me several times I better shut my mouth about all the rapes in the family and what Paul has done or I will be dead.
    Paul brought my brother Peter, who admits to raping my two sisters, (one of the sisters lives with my parents half a mile from Paul and Shaun) when he received his award for Sheriff of America in St. Louis. Another brother came to AZ this past year to visit, who has a warrant for his arrest, who raped me for several years when I was younger, and also raped 5 other sibling and beat my mother all the time. Why doesn't Sheriff Paul do anything with him? He takes a Oath to protect and serve?
    My grandfather raped me from the age of 4 on, along with 2 of my sisters. My father in AZ says who cares, he loves his father, and I am going to hell. There are more family secrets, but I will stop here.
    What I am trying to say to you, there is so much you do not know about how Sheriff Paul is not protecting your community by bringing rapists there.
    I will never stop writing my name, not to be famous like Paul, but to let people know I will not go away, until I finish the job my father never did. Which is to expose the molesters and rapists in my family. This vicious cycle is going to be put to a end. I do not care who threatens my life.
    So, you can hide behind your screen name. Maybe you are going about things the wrong way. You can have a strong stance on something, but don't let Sheriff Joe and Sheriff Paul be your role models. They make you look bad. Stand alone with your opinion with your view on illegal immigration. Just because they are well known, does not mean you have to chime in with them.
    I thank you for you trying to understand things. But, I am not trying to win anything. I have already lost everything that is important to me. I have nothing to gain by my stance. I am just trying to get justice for the victims who have been sexual abused or raped. Have a nice night. Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 3:35 pm on Thu, Dec 22, 2011.

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    lbabeu: My point was that the very FIRST "whistleblowers" that called for Sheriff Joe's resignation are know ILLEGAL ALIEN supporters. They have their own agenda.

    Mistakes were made, I never denied that. I stand by what I stated: The person(s) most directly responsible are being investigated, and to be punished. Once I know what that punishment is, I'll let you know if I think it's justified/reasonable.

    I never said rape is a "game", and you are misjudging my own life's experiences. I have never been raped, but over the course of my life, I've seen first hand the trauma (more than once) that person must endure for the rest of their life. It's always been my opinion that a rapist is just as bad, or worse than a murderer. Because the rapist has in essence ended that person's life as they've known it. Worse, the victim's "Hell" has just started.

    Finally, I applaud the fact you are willing to express your opinion, and what has occurred in your personal life. However, just because I disagree with you in certain areas doesn't make me a coward. Just like I'm not a racist or bigot just because I'm for stronger laws against ILLEGAL ALIENS. When you using name calling to "win" your argument, you only lessen the strength of your argument.

    The reason I don't sign my name is because I have had threats made to me by those that support ILLEGAL ALIENS. One guy even said he planned on tracking me by my IP address and pay me a visit simply because of my beliefs. By the way, the guy was a self admitted ILLEGAL ALIEN.

    Considering you know first hand that there are some "human beings" out there that can be trusted, I find it ironic what you would describe a cowardice, I'd describe as prudence, especially since I have more than myself to be concerned about. However, you couldn't know that....

     
  • lbabeu posted at 11:57 am on Thu, Dec 22, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Masterrogue666, I have never brought up anything about illegals, so don't think you are going to put me on anybodies sides with that. You sounds just like my brother Paul, always bringing up that issue instead of sticking to the story. And why don't you go do some checking on how bad it is when it was not done at first as you say, how many more rapes and sex crimes occured because of that mistakes on Sheriff Joe's negligence. Oh, it is sure nice of Sheriff Joe to do it after he gets called on the carpet for it. But because of that more victims are out there. You make me sick, why don't you have a party for him. These crimes are not a game, and you get second chances on to make it all better. Why don't you read up on what happens to these victims life because of these rapists. The trauma never ends. Then we have someone like you say second chances are alright. I stand alone when I say, it is a out right betrayal, which is worse than being raped, when people like you and Sheriff Joe say, well we did not do it the first time but the 2nd round is coming up. Don't give me sides here, I never needed anybody side, especially with a coward such as you.Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 11:24 am on Thu, Dec 22, 2011.

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    @ lbabeu: Please don't assume that I'm belittling what has occurred. Did MCSO fail. Yes. Was Sheriff Joe DIRECTLY responsible? No.

    Yes, he's in charge. Once he found out about MCSO's failure, he took the actions I mentioned previously. Had Sheriff Joe done nothing to rectify the situation, then I would be deadset against him.

    If you do some checking, you find out that persons that are PRO ILLEGAL ALIENS have started/done the loudest complaining. They will try anything to get Joe out of office for that reason alone. They aren't on your side, they are on their side.....

     
  • lbabeu posted at 9:49 am on Thu, Dec 22, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Leon,
    I am sorry to be the one to break the news to you. But ,when a Sheriff gets elected, he does not get to do half of his job as you explained above. Also, Leon, I would hope that when sex crimes are committed they are reported to Sheriff Joe and he is not the peretrator of it. No one is saying that. The Victims of rape go to Sheriff Joe's Department to report it. Then, it is Sheriff Joe jobs to follow through and make sure it gets processed properly. I do not know how to make it any more easier for you to understand. But, when it is not done, it is Sheriff Joe's fault. He is the one in Charge.
    To attack any victim that has been raped, I personally would have thrown you right off of here. Do you know how hard it is for any victim of sexual abuse or rape to come forward? Some never do, because of people like you who laugh at them and think it is there fault. I can face you because I have been in counseling for 15years every week to help myself , and in return try to help other abuse victims. My brother Paul and your friend, not mine, has hidden all the sexual abuse in our family. If you are so brave, and you are his friend, why don't you go pay him a visit and ask him about his other brothers beside Judge Shaun. See what answer you will get. I don't think Paul will be laughing too much and maybe you will stop this nonesense here and advocate for people that have been sexually abused and raped. Leon, if you were in the Military, you should know what honor and courage is. I know my brother Fran was a Marine all his life and he has step forward to help uncover the sexual abuse in our family. If you cannot do that Leon, please just go on to another cause where you don't look so heartless.Lucy Babeu

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 11:18 pm on Wed, Dec 21, 2011.

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    Don-cha just love the Libs who hide behind "Highway Signs" ...we had a term for them in the Military...now what was that..."Gumless Wonder" ....oh it will come to me...excuse me Folks, another "senior moment"....lol.
    As for the victims of rape blaming Sheriff Joe....he was not the perpetrator not someone who was not at fault.
    Sheriff Joe's anti-illegal alien sweeps and other arrests have sent back to their own Countries untold thousands and thousands of "criminals". Who knows ...if they committed the crime of illegally entering another Country = what other crimes these illegal aliens would feel could get away with. If misguided and un-patriotic Americans would "forgive" them for commiting one crime then maybe they would forgive them for committing other crimes. Out of these tens of thousands of criminal illegal aliens deported back to Mexico and Points South, how many potential or eventual rapists, murderers, burglars, assaulters, arsonists, identity thieves, car thieves, bike thieves, child molesters were in that group. Sheriff Joe and his deputies actions weren't "criminal". The illegal aliens who crossed the border in the dead of night with 40lb gunny-sack covered backpacks full of marijuana, heroin, opium or meth were the ......."CRIMINALS".

     
  • exit526 posted at 11:17 pm on Tue, Dec 20, 2011.

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    Leon, Lucy Babeu is a real person and was a real victim. Fact. Find your humor somewhere else.

    I don't want to distract from the theme of Mr. Richardson's column, however, since you seem so much into comedy, stay tuned.

    Instead of SNL, you will soon be seeing how funny denial is in the whole Babeu family when some of the same facts and statistics you demand of Mr. Richardson are asked of another sheriff you hold so dear: Paul Babeu.

    Facts. Statistics. When you go to Mr. Babeu for answers, try the same topics. Warm up on sex crimes in general. Then work into sex crimes within the family. Bring extra paper for note-taking. Maybe even a tissue or two.

    Yes, humor is on the horizon and when the real, long-hidden Babeu family stories come out, you can laugh all you want. I don't think your other hero, Paul Babeu, will be laughing with you.

    Now back to the Richardson column and Arpaio's way of doing business.

     
  • lbabeu posted at 10:31 pm on Tue, Dec 20, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Leon,
    I knew you had a two personalities just they way you say, "show us the statistics". No one can help you will your dillusional thinking. If you think things are a lie, go make your 5 minute phone call and prove it yourself. Your argument is within your dual personality. Bill is not here to help you with the facts that you want to believe or write what you want to hear. He not going to change the article because you do not like it. Laugh all you want at me. It does not bother me. It just shows me your total diregard for people that have been raped and you really don't care about the facts or statistics. You are just like Sheriff Joe. And to your friend Masterrogue666, Sheriff Joe is responsible for everything that happens at his place. Sheriff Joe is the big Boss there. Everyone knows it, That is why you love him so much. He does not need you two defending him, he is doing just find himself. Like I said to you before, if you do not understand the courage it takes for people to come forward to report these sex crimes, You ought to just go on your merry way. Try to pick a topic you know something about. I still wish you a very happy day. Lucy Babeu

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 6:00 pm on Tue, Dec 20, 2011.

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    Yawn..... Another billrichardson blames Arpaio DIRECTLY. Man, it's more boring reading one of Bill's articles than reading about Economics.

    Yes, MCSO was contracted to "police" that city. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the man MOST DIRECTLY IN CHARGE get fired for what occurred? Didn't MCSO redo all cases again, and plan to act on any information found.

    I agree that Arpaio should have used a better phrase than "If there were any victims". I guess he doesn't have a teleprompter to help him out. If MCSO/Arpaio did NOTHING after the mistakes were found out, then I'd be completely agree. However, like it or not, Arpaio isn't DIRECTLY responsible.....

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 5:33 pm on Tue, Dec 20, 2011.

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    "Lucy Babeu"....give us a break. SNL comes to the EVT......lol.

    I am still waiting for the number of Rape cases that occured in 2010 and the number that have been solved and the number of rapists who were arrested. It should be a matter of making one phone call. 5 minutes work.

    LET'S SEE THE FACTS NOT JUST THE LIES.....

    SHOW US THE STATISTICS !!!

     
  • billrichardson posted at 3:08 pm on Mon, Dec 19, 2011.

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    I've always found it very interesting how quick some males are to challenge the veracity of a woman or a child who reports to police they've been sexually assaulted. I wonder how the males who do this would feel if men were raped/sodomized at the rate women are?

     
  • lbabeu posted at 7:44 am on Mon, Dec 19, 2011.

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    Leon, do not lie and say you are looking for any facts when everyone can read you first comments when you just put everyone down. There is nothing funny about being raped. I am not jumping on anyone boats. You are shown the facts in this article on Sheriff Joe, and are not willing to look at it. You just laugh and then give Bill digs about who is as a person, instead of looking at the facts. Don't try to make yourself look good when Exit 526 challenges you to dispute the facts here. The fact is there are sex crimes that have no been processed. How does that effect you? Just go about your mery little way as you have. .But, if you going to throw digs at anyone it should be Sheriff Joe. You would see the facts if Sheriff Joe would processed the sex crimes and let the system work. This is what he took a oath to do. Bill is trying to Show you that in this article. Leon, Please if you have ever been raped, you would not be saying all this here. Help to advocate for the system to work. Don't stand in the way. Just move aside and do nothing is better. You have no idea what you are dealing with. I hope you have a nice day. Lucy Babeu

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 10:30 am on Sun, Dec 18, 2011.

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    I am just asking for the facts.

    How many outstanding child abuse cases are unsolved in the Mesa, Chandler, Gilbert, Phoenix, Surprise and Apache Junction Police Departments?

    The Left-Wing Liberal Newspapers and TV Channels have shown what the Maricopa County statistics are.....well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

    I assume that you are all honest and ethical people and want to be "TRANSPARENT" in your argument so............SHOW US THE FACTS !!!

     
  • exit526 posted at 6:54 pm on Sat, Dec 17, 2011.

    exit526 Posts: 33

    Thank you, Leon.

    We waited anxiously (over 48 hours) for you to finally bring us your dependable "Multidisciplinary Protocol for reacting to anything critical of Arpaio, Hendershott, Fox, Black or ... when stated by Richardson."

    Dispute the facts presented here. Challenge the writer for things that you might find are wrong or misstated.

    Even better, take a little time and be a "guest commentator" for the Trib yourself. The Trib seems to be open to an endless variety of viewpoints on many topics.

    But do a little better than jousting at windmills, or LE gurus or whatever.

    We look forward to your column.

     
  • Leon Ceniceros posted at 3:57 pm on Sat, Dec 17, 2011.

    Leon Ceniceros Posts: 2615

    What a hoot...seeing Mesa's own "Law Enforcement Guru"..preaching to the "Choir". Looks like all the "Elect Bishop Lewis" brothers and maybe a sister too have come on board the "USS Dump-on-Joe" Boat".....lol.

    Oh and since you mentioned the..."Mesa Police Department Sex Crimes Unit" following the "Multidisciplinary Protocol for the investigation of Child Abuse"....that must mean that there are no "child abuse cases" that have not been completely investigated and closed. The Mesa Police Department does not perform Mexican Illegal Alien Sweeps so there should be no "unserved Warrent or un-solved Crimes" in the Mesa Police Department. There should be no "backlog" of anything, since the Mesa PD focuses 100% on domestic crimes.....not one. Everything should be current...is that what the .."Guest Commentator" is swearing to....???

     
  • bobunf posted at 3:37 pm on Sat, Dec 17, 2011.

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    It is not a surprise to anyone who has been awake in Maricopa County over the last decade that Sheriff Arpaio is a vindictive racist who has imbued his jails and police operations with a culture of unconstitutional discrimination and cruelty. Denying racial profiling and other biases is pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. Like Sargent Schultz.

    What is surprising is the Justice Department description: "The most egregious racial profiling in the United States."

    About what do we get for this shameful behavior? Not less crime. But more lawsuits, murders, rapes, and child molesters roaming the County.

     
  • samkat posted at 6:51 pm on Fri, Dec 16, 2011.

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    Darn bob, I suppose MCSO is the only police organization in Maricopa County. Its time to fire the various police departments since obviously they are also compromising the safety and security of all Maricopa County residents.

     
  • bobunf posted at 11:36 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    bobunf Posts: 382

    From the U.S. Department of Justice December 15, 2011 report: "We note that MCSO's prioritization of immigration enforcement may have compromised its ability to secure the safety and security of Maricopa County residents. Since MCSO shifted its focus toward combating illegal immigration, violent crime rates in the county have increased significantly as compared to similarly situated jurisdictions."

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 8:49 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

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    Yes, folks, it is long past the right time to sent American's Toughest Sheriff packing!

     
  • billrichardson posted at 7:57 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    billrichardson Posts: 113

    samkat thanks for your vote of confidence.

     
  • KJDaVinci777 posted at 6:31 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    KJDaVinci777 Posts: 92

    Bill,
    Looks like Arizona has one voter(Lucy) that cannot be fooled by the self-servers of the world...Arpaio and Babeu- The twins do not have a clue when it involves enforcing the law...They are 3 dollar bills...

     
  • Brittanicus posted at 6:23 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    Brittanicus Posts: 106

    US GOVERNMENT AGENCIES RUN BY RADICAL LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES.

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    Newt Gingrich, Presidential candidate has been found to be weak on illegal immigration. On NumbersUSA website he has a grade of (D-). Former speaker Gingrich is not a true TEA PARTY Leader. While his counterpart Mitt Romney has already opened the Pandora's Box on at his the National Hispanic Assembly conference, Romney said without mentioning Gingrich name, that finally, we must stop providing the incentives that encourage illegal immigration. As governor, I vetoed legislation that would have provided in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants. Romney also emphasis of by completing the construction of a high-tech fence," Perhaps he has analyzed the weakness of the current single layer fence and not the double layer fence designed by Rep. Duncan Hunter in the President George Bush era. This was a corridor of information to inform the audience, that such things as tuition for illegal aliens, is against federal law and bypasses U.S. citizens who should always come first. This is similar situation when Mayors and other elected official say they are going to suppress assisting ICE, with the removal of every illegal alien under such laws as ‘Secure Communities’ or State recognized ‘E-Verify.’

    The flood of illegal workers almost certainly constitutes an invasion. The TEA PARTY will table any form of Amnesty or Immigration Reform and will apply the statutes in the 1986 Simpson/Mazzoli with strict enforcement according to the bill. Any Sanctuary City or State ordinances designed to cater to illegal aliens, will lose federal funding and expect ICE sweeps in the future. E-Verify and "Secure Communities" will no longer be a voluntary measure, but applied as a mandate to every state. The TEA PARTY will amend the 14th Amendment, so 300.000 children of illegal aliens annually can no longer obtain a foothold in America, to ransack the people's welfare programs and public assistance.

    1. Remember illegal aliens do vote in federal elections, and we all need to contact our politicians, to either issue an official to scrutinize voter rolls, or specifically absentee ballots.


    2. ISSUE a mandatory federal ID card, for all Americans, for voting at a minimal fee for the low income. This will end the fraudulent exposure of groups as Acorn and multiple registrations from the same people.

    3. Make illegal entry into the United States, punishable as a felony, not a civil offense.

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    There is nothing wrong with Lama Smiths E-Verify “the Legal Workforce Act." At the very least, it is a step in the right direction. Even if E-Verify has some flaws and some illegal aliens are able to obtain employment, it won't last very long. Those hired illegally will be caught eventually when the irregularities are corrected with the electronic verification program. It's better to have something as a deterrent, than to have nothing at all. E-Verify and to some extent ‘Secure Communities’ is an official order to fingerprint of all individuals who pass through booking halls of police precincts. This is all we have at this present time, to slow and finally end the hiring of illegal workers. E-Verify will place the burden firmly on every United States business, to check every new hire or be sanctioned, fined or even be imprisoned.

    Of course the usual radical voices are raised, as critics opposing this Historical Immigration Bill, H.R. 2885 are searching for any loophole to drag it down. They are using what inflammatory rhetoric or lies they can muster against the passage of E-Verify “the Legal Workforce Act." First they contest it that legal American workers could be turned away in being hired. So that person just addresses their grievances by going to their local Social security office; illegal aliens will stay well clear of this agency. None of the media will inform their readership of this? Learn more information at NumbersUSA. Other websites that will deliver the facts about the criminal element, with wide ranging access to the E-media is American Patrol. We can all stand with our fellow jobless countryman by Calling House and Senate Leadership NOW Call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121.

    Join a local TEA PARTY is end illegal immigration, the ruthless spread of the Liberal ‘Political Correctness’ agenda; (The so-called ‘Political Correctness’ is going to cause carnage on our borders or even a grander scale) restrict the giant growth of central government and return the power to sovereign states; dispatch the antiquated tax code for a flat tax, and equal for all, with no special privileges for the wealthy or giant corporations; listen to Donald Trump and tax goods from China, as they are taxing our products.


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  • samkat posted at 6:02 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    samkat Posts: 1176

    Bill: You should be the top cop in Arizona since you have such innate knowledge of the profession. Why don't you run for Joe's job?

     
  • billrichardson posted at 5:23 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    billrichardson Posts: 113

    Lucy,

    Thanks for your kind words and courage to speak out for yourself and other victims of sexual abuse. There's no excuse for what MCSO did and didn't. If a sheriff doesn't want to abide by the oath of office and follow the law as stated in ARS 11-441 then they need to resign.

    Being a law enforcement officer is about protecting and serving the public and not about protecting one's career and serving their own personal interests.

    Bill

     
  • lbabeu posted at 5:04 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    lbabeu Posts: 14

    Bill,
    Thanks for doing your part in writing this article on sex crimes that Sheriff Joe never did. We all know Sheriff Joe is not sorry, and this is his job to makes sure it gets done.. But you writing this article helps people that have been sexually abused, such as myself. You give me hope that there are people out there that are willing to put their name on the line to expose someone like Sheriff Joe. You care about these sex crimes that have not been processed. It is sick that it has not been done. My brother Paul is just as bad as Sheriff Joe. They both use threats to shut people up about sex crimes and do what they want.
    I appreciate you doing your part by writing this article. You did more for me today, and the other victims then you know. People that have been sexually abused do not ask for much. Just for the people in charge of enforcing the law, to do the job they are getting paid to do. Is that too much to ask?
    Thanks again Bill for doing your part. Lucy Babeu

     
  • KJDaVinci777 posted at 3:20 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

    KJDaVinci777 Posts: 92

    Bill,
    Another outstanding public service article. Arpio can best be described as a Terminal CANCER that is not good for Arizona. With his corrupt record I was amazed that Gov. Perry sought his endorsement. How can a distinquished Gov. lower himself to even utter Arpios propaganda. Is it true that one or two of his command staff had issues with children? (Sex issues) The self-serving arrogant beast should be removed from office and the office should be turned over to the Phx. PD- DPS or US Marshall. Its going to take more than Clorox to clean his office...Where are the J-Edgars in all of this?

     
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