In response to Mr. Kluth’s letter, it doesn’t really matter to me if it’s your job or not to disprove my words. Even if you tried, you would not succeed.
Also, in response to another letter recently, I do not watch Hannity. As I said in a letter published earlier this year, I do not have cable. I do, however, listen to Hannity on the radio whenever I can. On one day that I was able to listen, I heard Barack Obama say these words: “We do not consider ourselves to be a Christian nation.” I don’t know what speech that letter writer was quoting from, but it was obviously a different one from what I heard. He did call us arrogant as well. You cannot deny that. Obama is also someone who has gone on more vacations in three years than what Bush did in eight years.
The theories of evolution and the Big Bang were “discovered” in 1859 and 1927 respectively, so they are fairly new. However, belief in the creation is hardly new. It has been around for millennia. I don’t care if a bazillion scientists accept evolution and the Big Bang. That does not make them plausible. As a skeptic of both theories, I will quote Mr. Kluth on this matter: “It is not my job to disprove theories.”
Spencer Anderson
Mesa
VofReason posted at 1:10 pm on Tue, Jan 3, 2012.
Wow, they are out on this one. Lets level set here, scientist have never discovered how life started and so they have no answer in this regard. They only have theories for which they cannot prove. If you think different, when was the last time they created life from nothing? Oh, that's right- never. This was started as a Christina nation. The wise men (and women) came to this nation with God in their Heart and built the laws of the Nation around Natural Law. Primarily on the basis of the existance of God and inherent rights of men (men are created equal etc). Az Willie cracks me up. Try to sell that hooey to your Credit Card company- "I don't have a spending problem, just an income problem." What a load......
onerebel posted at 10:59 am on Tue, Jan 3, 2012.
Wow ! After reading Arizona Willie's last comments I'm almost speechless. Listen up folks, AZ Willie says our Government does NOT have a spending problem, the problem they have is a income problem. Translation, they need to tax us more, I'm glad to hear there is NO wasteful spending in Government .He also calls Republican's deadbeats because "People who refuse to pay their bills are called deadbeats". Would that not describe Wall Street protesters that want all their debt forgiven? What about those that want handouts from the Government? And which side is it that wants the Government bigger so it can take care of them ? Both sides are partly to blame for this mess we are in, and until some of us take our rose colored glasses off , then decide it is time to stop blaming everyone else and work on fixing the problem, we will be stuck in this mess !
Slabside posted at 3:01 pm on Mon, Jan 2, 2012.
Amen k33j88.
k33j88 posted at 5:02 am on Mon, Jan 2, 2012.
Yes, that 1911A1 pistol is the reason you progressives(liberals) are exercising your 1st amendment rights. Guns, in the hands of law-abiding citizens, save lives. Then again, you won't see those facts on the spoon-fed, progressive news networks. Now, back on topic: We can discuss the merits of this letter, pro/con, all day long. However, facts, are indesputable, unless seen through colored lenses. Yes, Mr Statist, did call Americans lazy. Yes, the co-auther of the collectivist agenda, did say we(progressives included) are'nt a CHRISTIAN nation. Then Mr. Anderson continues in his attack mode. Opposing viewpoints are healthy and insure the "balance" needed to avoid abuses in "govn't" , in all levels. The readers of this "biased newsprint" are well aware of my "political leanings". The author of the letter is just expressing his viewpoints. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Slabside posted at 6:17 pm on Sun, Jan 1, 2012.
The pistol is a 1911A1 and was the sidearm for America's military for close to 70 years. It saw service all over the world in it's distinguisher career. I don't plan on shooting anyone with it and I really don't give a rat's patoot if it intimidates anyone.
As a run of the mill liberal tool, I wouldn't expect to to understand the significance. Thank you for validating my perception of you.
denmjur posted at 4:20 pm on Sun, Jan 1, 2012.
Really slabside? Personal attacks? Look at your own post. By the way big guy, who are you going to shoot with that gun? Are we supposed to be intimidated by that? Leon doesn't have any facts. It's all lies and spin from his buddies that are indeed quite tiring. Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc. Even when you are confronted with facts you ignore them. (see previous posts) Five minutes and the internet are all you need to debunk Leon's garbage.
Slabside posted at 2:25 pm on Sun, Jan 1, 2012.
Leon, keep up the good fight. Notice how the Obama_tards immediately fall back to their personal attacks on you and throw in the tired Fox News, Limbaugh and Hannity insults when they can't respond with a viable arguement to your facts?
Let the Obamamites drink their Kool-Aid whilst listening to their messiah's lies.
denmjur posted at 1:14 pm on Sun, Jan 1, 2012.
Dear Leon,
Time to stop living in the Fox "News" propaganda bubble, before you start slobbering all over yourself. Your hate and bs is sooooo old. Read a book and start doing some fact checking. You live in a alternate universe with the other "Obama derangement syndrome" sufferers. You really are a sad, sad man.
Arizona Willie posted at 9:52 am on Sun, Jan 1, 2012.
Rich, despite the Republicans opposing everything Obama has tried to do, he has succeeded in many things.
Osama is gone, the troops are out of Iraq, unemployment is down ( slightly and probably temporarily but it IS down ).
Bush the Lessor had 8 years to mess the economy up and he did everything in his power to do so.
He started two unfunded wars and the unfunded Medicare prescription benefit. ALL ON BORROWED MONEY.
The the Republicans swore they would do everything they could to make Obama a one term President and they opposed everything he tried to do to fix the problems they created.
The country doesn't so much have a spending problem as it has an income problem.
Because of tax cuts and subsidies for corporations and the wealthy we don't have enough income to pay for the things we do. So the country winds up borrowing money that your kids and grandkids will have to pay back.
God forbid we paid our own bills, eh?
Republicans refuse to raise taxes on the wealthy even a teeny bit in order to pay the bills.
People who refuse to pay their bills are called deadbeats.
Republican Party = Party of Deadbeats
And remember, when the military told Bush they knew where Osama was and could get him --- Bush said NO.
Obama said YES.
Which one is the patriot?
Rich posted at 1:24 am on Sun, Jan 1, 2012.
sdjtaz,
Please, judging by performance Obama is just plain terrible. And following his name with any letter of the alphabet you want doesn't change that. I won't defend Bush, he is the fourth worst President I have lived through. Carter topped the awful pile until Obama nosed him out this year, and I still want to shower off whenever I hear Nixon was actually a U.S. President. However, Obama is just plain incompetent.
Slabside posted at 4:35 pm on Sat, Dec 31, 2011.
Aw, I see we have another typical libtard in the guise of sdjtaz.
@ adjtaz, "My guess is that if President Obama had an R after his name, there would be no complaints."
Hey clown, why don't you come right out with the liberal mantra of "You don't like Obama because he's black"?
Sorry Obamastooge... I dislike him because the the worst president ever elected.
sdjtaz posted at 3:45 pm on Sat, Dec 31, 2011.
Gee Slabside, if that's the best you can do, then I feel sorry for you. As I mentioned above, every US president have vacationed while in office (each one costing the taxpayers money for increased security). This is true whether the president has an R or a D after their name. My guess is that you probably never complained when the President G.W. Bush spent so much time clearing brush at his "ranch" at the expense of the taxpayer.).
As for asking for donations, gee, Barack Obama is running for reelection and like all Presidents running for reelection, is his wife is trying to generate funds for the campaign. I suppose that you are also upset that all of the Republican candidates are also asking for campaign contributions.
My guess is that if President Obama had an R after his name, there would be no complaints. After all, I read every right-wingers defense of George W. Bush, no matter how bad his decisions were (i.e. attacking Iraq).
Slabside posted at 2:56 pm on Sat, Dec 31, 2011.
Mrs. Obama is requesting donations for her husband's re-election campaign while she enjoys here $4 million dollar Christmas vacation.
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/12/30/4m-vacation-michelle-seeks-3-backers/
Arizona Willie posted at 9:02 am on Sat, Dec 31, 2011.
sdjtaz, Mr. Ceniceros appears to have some rather severe emotional / mental problems in my opinion.
You are just wasting perfectly good electrons trying to reason with him.
sdjtaz posted at 8:35 am on Sat, Dec 31, 2011.
Leon,
I'm not sure why I'm bothering since your hatred of anything left of a dictator is met with hatred, but I'll give it a shot. 1) President Obama took office in January 2009 (which is 2 years, 11 months ago, not 2 years). 2) Golf has been used for both recreation and as a means for meeting outside the office for President since the days of William Howard Taft. In example, Eisenhower was on the golf course over 800 times during his eight years in office. So, by your standard, Eisenhower must have been a horrible President. 3) Presidents and their wives have also always taken vacations, which cost the US taxpayers money. Every time Bush went to the ranch, it cost us. 4) The Queen and the rest of the royal family are simply figureheads for the British government. They have no ruling responsibility at all. Part of their job description is to visit bases on a regular basis. And yes, Barack Obama has been on base, most recently at Fort Bragg. At least he had the good sense to not waive a banner saying "Mission Accomplished". By the way, how many times has any President shown up at a base without any fanfare. That is not the nature of the Presidency.
Dale Whiting posted at 11:45 pm on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
Spencer,
I tried to salvage you the first time. Now you're on your own![sad]
Rich posted at 7:15 pm on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
What you are missing Mr. Anderson is quite simply that you cannot perceive a large enough sample of the Universe to create a hypothesis that is statistically viable, if you are an Empiricist (which is how science reasons). You cannot find any fact beyond your existence to form a basic syllogism (which is how a rationalist proceeds). So unless God sends you a feeling (ie: a revelation) what you know is what you fool yourself into believing. And revelations are a dime a dozen. You know you, in company with the rest of humanity, that is the limit of your knowledge. But you also know that you are unique and that you never happened before, and you will never happen again. It seems sort of lame to care about things like the Big Bang or evolution. Unless you make a profession of them, they are just metaphors for what we don't understand. As to myself, "I neither know, nor care, if the Earth goes around the Sun." Dante Gabriel Rossetti. Nor really should anyone but an astronomer, physicists moved on to Einstein.
Leon Ceniceros posted at 5:47 pm on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
HO-HO-HO Obama had played 90 5-hour golf games since coming into offic just 2 years ago.......2 years ago....Folks.
Michelle Obama "La Vacacion-ista" has stayed in every 5-Star Hotel on Earth...with her adoring "entourage" in tow....like Marie Antoinette. This ...17-DAY HAWAII EXTRAVAGANA VACATION....is costing American Tax-Payer....tens of millions of dollars so that Obama can go back to his ..."ROOTS".....baloney...his grandmother lived in a dinky house not some $10,000.00 a night ocean-side bungalow.
We see old Queen Elizabeth visiting different military units in England every other week, Camilla, Prince Charles, Prince Philip and even old meanie, Princess Ann does the same thing........HAS BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA EVER VISITED A MILITARY BASE ...JUST TO VISIT...EAT IN THE MESS HALL..SHOOT THE BREEZE ......NO PHOTO-OP, NO TELEPROMPTERS, NO WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS...JUST OBAMA AND THE SECRET SERVICE.
HAS MICHELLE "ASHAMED TO BE AN AMERICA FOR THE FIRST 40 YEARS OF HER LIFE" OBAMA.......DONE THE SAME THING...VISIT A MILITARY BASE AND JUST CHAT WITH THE WIVES...HAVE SOME TEA AND MAYBE "GAWD-FORBID" A ...DONUT...AND JUST LISTEN TO THESE BRAVE WOMEN (AND MEN SPOUSES TOO)............THE ANSWER IS NO.....JUST ANOTHER VACATION OR GOLF GAME......THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS TO THESE TWO.
denmjur posted at 4:26 pm on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
Happy to see some informed readers have set Mr. Anderson straight. Hannity lies through his teeth everyday! Start doing some research Mr. Anderson. These people are not on your side, but they manage to fool you into voting against your own best interests every election with this kind of propaganda and misinformation to make you angry at something or someone that does not exist.
Arizona Willie posted at 12:07 pm on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
Mr. Anderson ... you said " You cannot deny that. Obama is also someone who has gone on more vacations in three years than what Bush did in eight years. "
YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN, I CAN DENY THAT.
Here are the FACTS in a quote from CBS.
CBS NEWS ARTICLE QUOTE FROM 8/17/2011
So far, President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their Presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch where his staff often joined him for meetings. And Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
And here's a link to the article so you can read it yourself if you dare. but I doubt you will. Right-wingers don't like inconvenient facts that prove their hate filled view of Obama wrong.
http://tinyurl.com/3teqms3
sdjtaz posted at 11:55 am on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
Spencer- You are confusing the lay person's definition of "theory" with the definition of "Scientific Theory". In the lay definition, theory is seen to mean that something could hypothetically happen. However, the definition for "Scientific Theory" is fundamentally different. Scientific theory is a group of general laws grouped together to best explain an observed phenonenom. After time and testing, a theory will become accepting in the scientific community, but it will always remain a theory.
In example, in 1687, Isaac Newton developed a group of laws to explain his observations surrounding gravitational theory. Since the concept of gravity is still and will always be a scientific theory, does that mean the gravity does not exist in your mind.
So which is far more plausible, that have stood up to scientific testing and are now widely accepted or creationism which has changed with each new religious belief. After all, which creation story is real; Genesis, Pangu (ancient Chinese creation story), Native American creation stories, etc...
sockratties posted at 9:07 am on Fri, Dec 30, 2011.
Spencer – Your radio host misinformed you by the deceit of omission. The actual quote, when not taken out of context, was “ although as I mentioned, we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation; we consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.” This was during a discussion with President Gul of Turkey. You need to do a better job of vetting your sources. Many, Hannity included, provide half truths and sound bites with the intention of inflaming uniformed minions such as yourself.
With a little effort you might consider the postulation of there being no real conflict between scientific theories and creationism other than those you wish. I doubt that you can explain what methods God used to create existence. Why not a big bang and evolution. Using the new versus old criterion to validate knowledge would have the sun revolving around the earth, Titans fighting in the sky, ships falling off the edge of the seas, evil eyes instilling disease and priests roasting the feet of heretics to drive evil spirits away. Have a little faith in your beliefs... they are not being threatened by science.