American industry is tarred and feathered for legally “exporting American jobs” to foreign workers while the U.S. Government is praised for supporting the illegal importation of thirty million foreign workers who displace American workers within the USA. Where is the logic in this? When the cost to the American tax-payers is added to provide emergency health care and education for the foreign worker’s families, the comparison becomes even more bizarre.
And why is the press silent as Obama’s General Motors now manufactures seventy percent of its cars in foreign countries while Mitt Romney’s Bain Capital is accused of moving just a few thousand jobs overseas? It appears that what is good for the goose is now longer good for the gander in today’s America.
Jack C. McVickers
Scottsdale
downtownresident posted at 8:18 am on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
Jack,
Why not just blame Obama for the Holocaust and the "big flood", while you're at it.
Let's talk about the real reason that jobs are going overseas. MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! American business can make bigger profits by shipping the work off shore.
Why are foreign workers sneaking into the USA? MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They cut your grass and wash your cars because no one born here wants to be bothered to do it.
Get over your hatred of Obama.
You also need to get over your worshiping Romney, who is nothing but a super rich, disconnected Mormon, who knew/knows what was going on at Bain.
Now Mitt's got /Tea party roots are showing.
Arizona Willie posted at 9:17 am on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
Business moves operations overseas for one reason --- GREED.
Most of the companies that moved have been very very profitable right here at home using American labor. The list of companies who moved although they were profitable is very long. Hersheys, Whirlpool, Levi are just the tip of the iceberg.
These were all very profitable but moved and put tens of thousands of people out of work and destroyed American communities ( Hershey Penn. ) in order to increase the bottom line further to justify a huge bonus for the executives.
Most of the companies that have moved did NOT need to move in order to be profitable. Their top execs just WANTED a BIGGER BONUS so they were willing to destroy the lives of the people who had made the company profitable.
As for invading aliens doing work American won't do -- for the most part that is not true.
Construction work used to be an honorable trade and people were able to raise their families working as roofers and carpenters and plumbers.
The invaders you see trimming bushes are a very small minority. Most of the illegals already have a job lined up in some factory or office before they ever come. You never see the majority of the illegals. Hispanics are not stupid. They have skilled trades and professions and they can make more here in an hour than they do in a day in their home country. THAT IS WHY THEY COME. MONEY. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE AMERICANS ... THEY JUST WANT OUR MONEY TO SEND HOME.
Businesses don't want to pay American wages and Americans don't want to work for the wages they offer because it isn't even enough to pay the bills.
Illegals are willing to live 4 families to an apartment in order to send money home but Americans won't live like that and SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.
200 years from now historians will write that the downfall of American Capitalism was the Executive Bonus.
Executive Bonuses were virtually unheard of before the mid 80's when the phrase " Greed is good " was popularized and once the concept of Executive bonuses spread no industry or business would ever be the same. It began a race to the bottom.
Executives were willing to destroy communities and put thousands of people out of work in order to walk away multi-millionaires.
The fact they were destroying America's industry was irrelevant to them.
Dale Whiting posted at 9:41 am on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
Jack,
You got it! We subsidize corn production in Iowa making US corn cheapter in Mexico City that domestic Mexican grown corn. Then we complain when Mexican farmers have to leave family behind to find work in the US. Hypocracy, thou art a patriotic American!
Cerulean posted at 10:07 am on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
Jack are you a Romney apologist?
GM is an international company and was an international company on the day it declared bankruptcy. GM employs over 300,000 U.S. citizens with, good paying middle class jobs. The GM deal has earned U.S. citizens (all of us) dividends on the government backed bailout.
Bain Capital earned Mitt Romney a place with the top 1 percent of the wealthy in the U.S..
Cerulean posted at 11:16 am on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
Arizona Willie I do agree with most all of your comment.
There is one point that does not fit “THAT IS WHY THEY COME. MONEY. THEY DON'T WANT TO BE AMERICANS ... THEY JUST WANT OUR MONEY TO SEND HOME.”
I don’t believe that is true. I do believe, however, that they know they have bought their way into our country because they provide cheap labor and I do believe there is a double edged quality to that fact.
chatmandu002 posted at 11:47 am on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
Obama's policies and programs have moved more or created more jobs overseas than Bain Capital has.
The reason illegals are here is to work and send money back home. The fact that they have babies, receive education, medical care and other benefits which are supplied by the citizens of America is a bonus. I don't blame them for wanting to have a better life however I do blame them for breaking our laws. When we stop giving illegals birth right citizenship to their babies, free education, medical care, require prove of right to work (E-verify) and secure our borders then they will stop coming.
Our immigration system isn't broke it's just not enforced. Enforce all the laws all the time.
samkat posted at 5:55 pm on Thu, Jul 19, 2012.
DTR: You are are making excuses for the invaders. By the way, I am seeing more and more White guys doing the work you claim we are too lazy to do. For your information, I do my own yard work and refuse to hire a contractor unless they assure me their help is legal. Now, one thing we can lay on Obama is his defacto amnesty.
We have over 14 million Americans out of work, many of them in the same career fields that the 7 plus million illegals are working. Who do you think was doing the construction work before the invasion began? Now, Obama wants to dismantle the military, throwing even more Americans into the employment morass.
If he is capable of granting open amnesty via executive orders, he can easily issue another one extending E-Verify to all U.S. employers. Will he do it, no because he is too busy pandering to the Hispanic activists.
While I am no Romney fan, I will vote for him to see if I can help bring some sanity back to the White House.
sockratties posted at 7:10 am on Fri, Jul 20, 2012.
It’s easy but inaccurate to bash the current administration for the large number of illegal immigrants who are here from Mexico. Data and statistics from the Pew Research Center, a conservative think tank, tend to refute those opinions.
At least two major factors play into the equation; U.S. immigration policies and the economy. The federal government has doubled staffing along the border while adding drone and surface surveillance technologies. They have also instituted penalties such as extended visa waiting times and remote drop-off sites for those caught trying to cross illegally. Reductions in work opportunities in construction and manufacturing activity have also impacted incentives to immigrate or remain.
Flow of unauthorized immigrants to the U.S. from Mexico has actually reversed during the Obama administration. Current policy has been to use available resources to concentrate on those who are least desirable such as criminals and gang members. During the last 40 years 12 million immigrants have come to the U.S. from Mexico. In year 2000 the ratio of those arriving to those departing was about 4 to 1. In year 2010 the ratio had reversed with slightly more Mexican-born immigrants departing than arriving. While recent data is incomplete, indications are that this trend has intensified in the last two years.
In 2011 just over 6 million unauthorized Mexican immigrants were in the U.S., down from 7 million in 2007. In year 2000 the annual flow of immigrants from Mexico to the U.S. was 770 thousand. In 2010 that number had dropped to 140 thousand, a number exeeded by those departing. When these people leave the U.S. to return to Mexico they take their families with them, including their American-born children.
Cerulean posted at 1:26 pm on Fri, Jul 20, 2012.
chatmandu, I have read that Mitt Romney’s job proposals eliminate all US taxes on foreign profits made by U.S. companies. This could lead to the creation of 800,000 jobs overseas.
I am not saying that I agree or disagree with Romney's proposals; I am just saying.
fae4now posted at 10:27 pm on Fri, Jul 20, 2012.
Samkat,
I fear that if you hope that Romney will restore any degree of sanity to government you'll be in for some serious disappointment. Since he won't tell us exactly what he intends to DO about much of anything we could be on the fast track to crazy-town!
Create jobs? How? And where? What kind of jobs?
Reduce the deficit? Exactly how?
Replace Obama/Romney care? With what?
Lots of talking points - but where are the plans? How do you know you'll approve of his policies if he won't propose anything? ( for the record I'm an Independent)
For some of the other comments here:
Who is to say whether or not the illegals WANT to be Americans? Some of your own ancestors no doubt clung tightly to their homelands. I know lots of Irish families that get foggy-eyed over the 'old sod'.
And my Polish Grandmother lived to be 91 and sent money back to the families of her brothers and sisters there until she died. It was her money, she sacrificed and did without to help them and it was no one's business how she spent it. I recall her tears in the 1970s when she received a letter from the "old country" celebrating being first in their village to have indoor plumbing thanks to her generosity. My mother could have been bitter to find that her potential inheritance had all gone to Poland. She wasn't.