Let's dissect the article for a more objective understanding. First and foremost, what where talking about here is an alternative lifestyle being promoted and upheld. A liberal, gay embracing, news outlet, reporting on a liberal infested, gay promoting, public school environment. We're not talking about pre-school children here , but adults ready to join the workforce, military, or a higher institution of learning. There's a reason why parents of Judean/Christian mores are removing their children from the public school indoctrination centers.
The problem with all of this is the garbage it's creating. The principal is getting a name made and a news story because of all of this. It is no secret that he is at Westwood for the short run and is looking to make a name for himself. What is disappointing is that this is now the focus of Westwood. Today will be all about Dr. Tim, not about education. I don't care about the punishment, but one of the students was on a behavior contract. That, and every other contract, is now worthless, because all you have to do is hold hands and the contract is not enforced. I agree that suspensions are not always the best method of behavior enforcement. I have told my student at WHS that I'll take the suspension under certain circumstances, where he was being harrassed, because admin did nothing about it and he had to defend himself. I do think however, that this has more than motives that have to do with students
I can appreciate your opinion k33 but how can you get this is promoting or encouraging a gay relationship out of forciing 2 male students to hold hands? It's the exact opposite. It's embarrassing for the 2 boys and should make them think twice next time. I think it's a creative way for punishment. @ Irons sounds like you are the one with the agenda
retired03, what exactly is my agenda? I don't disagree with the punishment, but the one student was on a behavior contract with specific behavior agreements and consequences spelled out. This is no longer the case. All of you right wing, law enforcement nuts are always crying about consequences. How come they are not applicable now? The principal has done some great things at Westwood, but who are they for? Students or himself. It is no secret that he has higher ambitions and that's fine. People should move forward, but at what cost?
Not sure why people care one way or the other. But I do understand the district's fears; forcing physical contact as punishment is probably contrary to "intimacy" rules of the district. If two kids can get in trouble for holding hands in class, then you probably shouldn't use it as a school-sanctioned punishment; it sends a mixed message.
Some of you seem to be missing the objective of the lesson. Holding hands really was a way of forcing them to acknowledge that there are consequences for bad behavior. If the two shook hands, they would still be holding hands. I guess k33 does not shake hands for fear of being called gay.
I have no problem with my tax dollars being spent on public education and if folks want to pull their kids from a public school. so be it but I should not be subsidizing their alternative choices.
k33j88 posted at 3:25 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
Let's dissect the article for a more objective understanding. First and foremost, what where talking about here is an alternative lifestyle being promoted and upheld. A liberal, gay embracing, news outlet, reporting on a liberal infested, gay promoting, public school environment. We're not talking about pre-school children here , but adults ready to join the workforce, military, or a higher institution of learning. There's a reason why parents of Judean/Christian mores are removing their children from the public school indoctrination centers.
Beauford posted at 5:28 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
Firestorm Grows ? Gay ? What ? It must be a slow news day.
Masterrogue666 posted at 5:41 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
They shouldn't have been given a choice. THEY MADE THEIR CHOICE when they decided to fight. Sounds like "amnesty" to me!
Bingo6 posted at 5:52 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
Gee what a concept Peaceful resolution over violence., this isn't punishment this is a testament to a great principal to take teach a real principle.
Perhaps it is time we all come together for a hand holding moment.
k33, you need to quit drinking.
mhackett71 posted at 6:41 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
One of the Kids "IS" wearing pink...? ... Actually great idea by the principle, humiliation can be a good deterent for kids behaviors.....
Irons1 posted at 6:59 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
The problem with all of this is the garbage it's creating. The principal is getting a name made and a news story because of all of this. It is no secret that he is at Westwood for the short run and is looking to make a name for himself. What is disappointing is that this is now the focus of Westwood. Today will be all about Dr. Tim, not about education. I don't care about the punishment, but one of the students was on a behavior contract. That, and every other contract, is now worthless, because all you have to do is hold hands and the contract is not enforced. I agree that suspensions are not always the best method of behavior enforcement. I have told my student at WHS that I'll take the suspension under certain circumstances, where he was being harrassed, because admin did nothing about it and he had to defend himself. I do think however, that this has more than motives that have to do with students
jimnbubba posted at 8:16 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
@ Irons1: Are you saying the Principle is a Democrat ?
retired03 posted at 9:28 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
I can appreciate your opinion k33 but how can you get this is promoting or encouraging a gay relationship out of forciing 2 male students to hold hands? It's the exact opposite. It's embarrassing for the 2 boys and should make them think twice next time. I think it's a creative way for punishment. @ Irons sounds like you are the one with the agenda
anod12 posted at 9:47 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
This is a fantastic form of creative punishment. And the kids involved chose this over suspension.
K33, have another cup of that Koolaid their feeding you.....
Irons1 posted at 10:02 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
retired03, what exactly is my agenda? I don't disagree with the punishment, but the one student was on a behavior contract with specific behavior agreements and consequences spelled out. This is no longer the case. All of you right wing, law enforcement nuts are always crying about consequences. How come they are not applicable now? The principal has done some great things at Westwood, but who are they for? Students or himself. It is no secret that he has higher ambitions and that's fine. People should move forward, but at what cost?
chuckles3 posted at 10:58 am on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
Waiting for the lawsuits to start.
The kids chose this punishment. I think it is wrong and ineffective, but they chose it.
However, they are still minors? Did their parents choose it for them?
If not, look out for 1-800-lawyers.
Love the pink shirt on the one kid.
DonMey posted at 2:13 pm on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
Not sure why people care one way or the other. But I do understand the district's fears; forcing physical contact as punishment is probably contrary to "intimacy" rules of the district. If two kids can get in trouble for holding hands in class, then you probably shouldn't use it as a school-sanctioned punishment; it sends a mixed message.
askuhn posted at 3:52 pm on Mon, Dec 3, 2012.
Yes, what a great lesson, let everyone mock and jeer the two men holding hands...
samkat posted at 9:03 pm on Thu, Dec 6, 2012.
Some of you seem to be missing the objective of the lesson. Holding hands really was a way of forcing them to acknowledge that there are consequences for bad behavior. If the two shook hands, they would still be holding hands. I guess k33 does not shake hands for fear of being called gay.
I have no problem with my tax dollars being spent on public education and if folks want to pull their kids from a public school. so be it but I should not be subsidizing their alternative choices.