Arizona sheriff launches patrols outside schools (updated) (w/ video)
Joe Arpaio
FILE -- In this July 17, 2012, file photo, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio speaks during a press conference in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Matt York, File)
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VofReason posted at 1:47 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.
Volunteer posse, partoling schools? This is obviously just more grandstanding -no? Wait, certainly the schools would need additional funds from the taxpayers to protect children- oops wrong again, they are volunteers. But surely this won't do as much to prevent school violence as say more gun control. Hmmm, guess that exhaust most the liberal objections, good work Sheriff.
Masterrogue666 posted at 2:21 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.
Grandstanding? Sounds like it was planned for some time. Cost- None, due to volunteeers. Sounds like a variation of the "Block Watch" program, just modified for schools.
Yet ANOTHER POSITIVE program/idea Sheriff Joe has come up with! Gee, I guess he is concerned with more than just ILLEGAL ALIENS, as his detractors state.
Slabside posted at 3:17 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.
Good for you Joe! [beam]
bubba posted at 4:07 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.
Some of those posse members reportedly have criminal pasts. That's where the controversy comes in.
An MCSO spokesman said those people have already faced disciplinary action in connection with their crimes, either avoided felony convictions or petitioned to have their records expunged, and are now moving on.
While all of them are volunteers, even paying for all their own guns and equipment, posse members are insured by MCSO. The county would therefore likely be on the hook for any liability if some kind of accident happened during a school patrol.
Armed geriatrics trained by MCSO, what could go wrong?
bubba posted at 4:13 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.
In most places, if a strange old man with a gun is seen outside a school, the school calls the sheriff. Here, the sheriff actually sends them there.
Slabside posted at 4:43 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.
Seriously bubba? What, pray tell, made you such a sour grape my friend? Had this sheriff been appointed by Obama or elected by a Democratic majority you would be all in favor of this endeavor.
I personally know several posse members and each and every one of them is a upstanding American citizen.
Dale Whiting posted at 2:29 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Time will tell! I'm betting that time will prove Arpaio wrong. It has in the past. It likely will in the future. Joe's volunteer militia are not much better trained than was that armed viligante in Florida who now pleads self defense.
bubba posted at 7:21 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Slab..I have no doubt there are some good posse members that do good work in shopping malls etc., but I think full time, DPS trained, SRO's would be a wiser choice.
truncate posted at 10:23 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Lets see, a bunch of old birther coots with insufficient training and assualt weapons at schools, what could possibly go wrong? Pray to God we don't find out!
mikedurham posted at 11:07 am on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Before Joe declares this effort a success, an honest measure of evaluation needs to be estabished.
Poorman posted at 1:13 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Atta boy Joe good work,keep it up.Its obvious on here that some posters have no idea what they are talking about,as there always is. But its a kick to read some of the idiotic statements made on here. Have a good day all. By the way Joe how come your still in office,lot of posters on here said you would not be put into office again. Don't here much out of them now.
VofReason posted at 1:40 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Hmmm. I hear a number of commentators here pointing out why this won't work even before anything happens, but also the same group that cheers for gun control that hasn't worked for sure. Maybe they should have the posse members follow around the people with known mental illness and cut to the chase.
Slabside posted at 4:50 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.
Captain Neo-Con stupidly says, "Joe's volunteer militia are not much better trained than was that armed viligante in Florida who now pleads self defense."
And you have proof of this, right Dale?
I know several posse members and I know that they are qualified for this and several other law enforcement duties. How many do you know?
Diarrhea of the mouth Dale strikes again.
Mike McClellan posted at 5:23 pm on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
I actually agree with the Sheriff in that a regular patrol is a deterrent. Even a madman sometimes has the clarity to know that a patrol car can quickly react to what's seen and make a call in.
But two questions:
Will it be a regular patrol? And will it be permanent?
Because if the patrols are sporadic or only temporary, then this is just another Arpaio publicity stunt.
Let's see what his posse's doing three months from now.
BobtheBridge posted at 1:30 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
"Lets see, a bunch of old birther coots with insufficient training" Commenter, of course, knows all and believes he himself is an alien from another planet. Then there are the comments from the "I believe everything I read" group who undoubtedly were selected from a group of thousands and "told" that posse members "reportedly" have criminal pasts. I'm confused who are you trying to impress??
bubba posted at 6:21 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
BobtheBridge.. A report by CBS5 News uncovers posse members with criminal pasts.. "Arpaio wants his army of 3,000 volunteer posse members to look like sworn deputies and sometimes perform the same duties. But an in-depth project by CBS 5 Investigates uncovered a number of posse members with arrests for assault, drug possession, domestic violence, sex crimes against children, disorderly conduct, impersonating an officer - and the list goes on."... This is not to say there aren't any competent posse members, but there seems to be a lack of vetting out the criminal element...http://www.kpho.com/story/17159125/criminal-pasts-dont-disqualify-members-of-arpaio-posse
Mike McClellan posted at 9:17 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
One of my questions was answered last night:
The posse will not patrol every school every day. I guess Arpaio hopes that a shooter appears on the days his posse actually patrols around the school.
bubba posted at 11:11 am on Thu, Jan 10, 2013.
Mike McClellan ...Actually Arpaio just hopes that a camera crew appears on the days his posse actually patrols around the schools. This is his true concern.