Anonymous taxpayers behind anti-Mormon Gilbert election mailer should identify themselves

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• Engaged Voter posted at 1:10 pm on Wed, Aug 22, 2012.

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  "I have never at any time had any hard feelings toward someone because of their skin color."
  So you reject the Mormon teachings of skin color and race?
  Or are you going to pretend they aren't there (which would be LYING)?

  'EV, what do you mean by "release their strangehold"?'
  I mean the stranglehold on government the various tax exempt cults (yours included) have. Forcing their religious views on the rest of us, sometimes as actual laws.
  Are you so ignorant of American History that you don't know this already?
  

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• mrconservative posted at 9:32 am on Tue, Aug 21, 2012.

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  Tsk, tsk, tsk. It's "Latter-day Saints" not "Latter Day Saints"

  True Christians are not racist. I try to be a true Christian. I have never at any time had any hard feelings toward someone because of their skin color. I try to look at the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Sound familiar?

  I have known many Hispanics in my life, and one was a great friend of mine. I don't see him regularly anymore, since he's a father now, and has moved out of my area, though I still see his Dad often. I was also great friends with a Tongan-American, who is also married. His Dad is this huge muscular guy, who would make an excellent bodyguard.

  And, EV, what do you mean by "release their strangehold"?

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• DavidNichols posted at 4:41 pm on Mon, Aug 20, 2012.

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  You know Mr. Scarp, I was raised L.D.S. and I can remember when being a "Latter Day Saint" meant more.

  We didn't group all Immigrants Men Women, and even Children as Murderers, Rapist, Drug Cartels, ect.

  We didn't believe in "Attrition" (Starving the Good, Hard Working Hispanic Parents of our own Citizen Children to make them leave.)

  We did not own Private Prisons, or make Billions of dollars in Profit Detaining Non-Criminal Human Beings.

  We did not believe in Deporting/Dumping Hundreds of Thousands of Lamanite/Hispanic Human Beings at the Harsh U.S. Mexico Border with nothing, into a known "Drug War" as I.C.E. has done , and where over Forty-two Thousand Hispanics now lay Dead!

  We did not believe in ripping good hard working Parents from their Legal Citizen Children, or Families.

  We believed that "We are all Gods Children."

  We would stand for the Persecuted, not Persecute them!

  We did not Embrace, or Babtize Nazi;s!

  We stood for Good, and would not Waiver!

  Much has changed in the Arizona Branch of "Latter Day Saints"!

  None for the Better!

  "America is great because it is good, when it cease to be good, it ceases to be great.
  Alex De Tocqueville

  "Latter Day Saints"???

  No Longer!!!!

  Politic's does not excuse these Dirty Actions.

  Many "Saints" have a rude awakening coming in the end.

  To: Good, and Brotherhood, from Sea, to shining Sea.

  
  "Choose the Right"

  What a Joke!

  Most Scincerely:

  Latter Day Saint
  David Nichols

  I am glad I was Raised Far Better, than Todays Racist "Saints".

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• Engaged Voter posted at 1:12 pm on Mon, Aug 20, 2012.

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  "I think the content of what was said — to vote for or against someone based on their religious beliefs — has no reasonable place in politics."

  I agree 100%! It has NO place in politics.

  But until the various Christian groups (Mormons included) release their strangehold on American politics, it seems silly and hypocritical to blame the other side.

  I never saw the mailer, so I must ask - was it defamatory, or simply fact-based? (I ask because I get accused of attacking religion all the time, when all I do is post facts)
  

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• Leon Ceniceros posted at 7:59 am on Mon, Aug 20, 2012.

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  Oh come on now....let's be honest here, Mr. Scarp.

  Did you ever hear of the.........."CITIZENS FOR A BETTER AMERICA" ???

  This was the political group that came together to oust Mesa Senator Russell Pearce.
  One day it just suddenly appeared out of nowhere and so did Mormon Bishop Jerry Lewis to be their candidate.

  Mr. Scarp, you have access to the East Valley Tribune photo archives....go back and look at the photos taken of this group and the people in photos with Bishop Jerry Lewis. You will see, 100% White, clean-cut, well-groomed, dress-panted, long-sleeve wearing middle-aged .....MEN (aka "brothers")....no WOMEN....just men. Now what manner of political group in 2012 is the "politically correct" America of Today has only White, middle-aged, well-dressed (not a pair of shorts or a tee-shirt or sandals on a one) Men = a Mormon one.

  This group was brought together not by their "concern" for the rights of Illegal Alien Hispanics but because their leadership had concieved and was pushing the "UTAH COMPACT" to give "back-door Citizenship" to millions of Illegal Aliens. The major focus of Mormon prostilization. Russell Pearce's ..SB1070...stood in the way of the "UTAH COMPACT".....so Russell Pearce had to go.

  It was a foregone conclusion that Bishop Jerry Lewis would be elected, not because of his wholesome appearance (the EVT never took a photo of him that wasn't a "glamor shot"....while Pearce's photos always showed him ...scowling or with his mouth twisted open)..........but because ..MESA IS THE MOST MORMON CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

  HOW ELSE TO YOU EXPLAIN THAT ALMOST 65% OF ARIZONIANS SUPPORTED ...SB 1070...AND IN THE PREVIOUS ELECTION....PEARCE WON IN A LANDSLIDE...........THE PEOPLE OF MESA DIDN'T TURN AGAINST...RUSSELL PEARCE....THE MORMON CHURCH DID !!!

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• JMJ posted at 11:03 pm on Sun, Aug 19, 2012.

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  Open hatred of marginalized groups of people is accepted in our society. Look at the Chick-fil-A incident, recently. The bully pulpit is alive and well and living in the East Valley. It is uncomfortable to hear the Catholic-bashing that goes on due to the pedophile priests that permeated the parishes in the US and here in AZ. But, do I understand why that takes place? You bet. And, do I understand that sometimes criticism is deserved by a group that is frustratingly insular and does not afford equal opportunity to others in the workplace, when there should be a separation of church and state? You bet. I am not one of the group you cite that sent the hate mail, and I'd never publish tracts against anyone. But, I certainly have felt the sting of discrimination at the hands of the "good people" of the East Valley. Experience is a great teacher. I don't treat "you people" the way "you people" have treated me. But, I have a right to my opinions, and a right to keep my identity anonymous. Bigotry works both ways. While we'd all like to say we aren't prejudiced about any group, the reality is that personal opinions are sometimes well-earned. Sad but true.

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• timdlittle posted at 7:39 pm on Sat, Aug 18, 2012.

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  Who are the candidates that they are talking a bout?

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• mwmike posted at 7:00 pm on Sat, Aug 18, 2012.

  Posts: 91

  Save you're outrage for "Citizens United" and all the other racist, hateful, anonymous, liars spending literally billions of dollars trying to defeat a great, family values President. Oh, and I don't think you have to worry about "threats", milquetoast .

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