One-third of all public schools already have armed guards. In fact, 28,000 schools around the country already have armed security staff. They're at 20 percent of primary schools, 54 percent of middle schools, and 68 percent of high schools.
Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut did not. School children are most vulnerable to gun violence. They can’t defend themselves, and neither can the teachers. Two-thirds of public schools are “gun free zones”.
Accuracy, even when a school has an armed guard, it is usually only one old man supplementing his Social Security standing at the front door.
Hardly sufficient to prevent a kid from pulling a gun from his backpack in Algebra class and cutting loose.
Schools just don't have the budget for enough armed guards to be effective.
And, the people would scream bloody murder if you raised taxes enough to put sufficient armed guards in the schools to actually do the job. It would take one in every class and each hall.
It would be worse than being in prison.
Anything short of that would not be effective at preventing a mass shooting.
But actually it brings up another question.
Why have schools in their present form anyway?
Education could be done via things like Kahn University with excellent top notch teachers able to present classes to every kid in the country.
Talk about equal education.
Every kid could take lectures from the very greatest teachers in the country, and have local teachers to email their tests and homework to. Tests could be given online easy enough too. Questions could be changed at the last minute to prevent kids from getting advance copies.
Why waste the trillions of dollars in school buildings? We'd still need local teachers but they could work from home offices too. They wouldn't give classes, but would help students who needed extra help and grade homework and tests.
Time to bring education into the modern era.
The old fashioned school house with kids penned up in bunches is inefficient.
Az Willie, kudos for thinking outside the box. Your idea is similar to what some Republicans are advocating except that they want to be able to funnel the money to their cronies. Besides, we all know that Republicans don't like to spend money for public education.
The real issue isn't armed guards in schools, that is a red herring, but the over saturation of guns in our society. Why not place a yearly tax on guns such as Canada does. Speaking as a veteran, most who crow the 2nd Amendment rights and portend to be a patriot were not willing to serve in this countrys military.
The NRA has no problem suggesting spending someone elses money on armed guards. The message really is tone deaf but worse, irrational. It may be easy to shoot, but what happens when you are shot at for then is when you find out about the nerve of the person. As long as the Lobbyiest control the dialog on any critical subject in this country it will be the citizens who lose.
"Trained?" How many times have I heard that word lately! I would say US Border Patrol Agents are "trained". Yet a couple of months ago we saw them shooting at each other in "confusion", and one ended up dead - not at the hand of Mexican drug dealers, but by another border guard! In NY, when "trained" cops responded to a shooter outside the Empire State Building, 9 innocent people were shot by police, as they were aiming at the shooter. So let's put "trained" personnel in the schools! What could go wrong?
IAB posted at 11:30 am on Fri, Dec 21, 2012.
Let's see one deals with an actual response and the other worries about how kids feel. What is more important their safety or their feelings??
Rich posted at 1:12 pm on Fri, Dec 21, 2012.
If school employees are trained and armed, that works much better than an armed guard, is a lot cheaper and protects the children better.
Arizona Willie posted at 8:17 am on Sat, Dec 22, 2012.
In order to be effective, there would have to be a guard in each classroom and in the halls, as well as at each door.
Republican Legislators ABSOLUTELY will NOT vote to increase Taxes to pay for all the needed guards and training.
And, do you really want you kid to have to study with an armed guard standing over them?
Well ... true ... it might be a good way to keep order in the class and get the kids to study.
I suspect that it would be far more effective to ban tv networks from blasting news of an incident all over TV for weeks.
The psycho's want the attention. Deprive them of the notoriety they believe they will have and you take away much motivation for mass shootings.
The people affected in a shooting such as parents should be notified but NOTHING should be put on tv about it. NOTHING.
Accuracy posted at 9:29 am on Sat, Dec 22, 2012.
One-third of all public schools already have armed guards. In fact, 28,000 schools around the country already have armed security staff. They're at 20 percent of primary schools, 54 percent of middle schools, and 68 percent of high schools.
Sandy Hook Elementary in Connecticut did not. School children are most vulnerable to gun violence. They can’t defend themselves, and neither can the teachers. Two-thirds of public schools are “gun free zones”.
Arizona Willie posted at 10:53 am on Sat, Dec 22, 2012.
Accuracy, even when a school has an armed guard, it is usually only one old man supplementing his Social Security standing at the front door.
Hardly sufficient to prevent a kid from pulling a gun from his backpack in Algebra class and cutting loose.
Schools just don't have the budget for enough armed guards to be effective.
And, the people would scream bloody murder if you raised taxes enough to put sufficient armed guards in the schools to actually do the job. It would take one in every class and each hall.
It would be worse than being in prison.
Anything short of that would not be effective at preventing a mass shooting.
But actually it brings up another question.
Why have schools in their present form anyway?
Education could be done via things like Kahn University with excellent top notch teachers able to present classes to every kid in the country.
Talk about equal education.
Every kid could take lectures from the very greatest teachers in the country, and have local teachers to email their tests and homework to. Tests could be given online easy enough too. Questions could be changed at the last minute to prevent kids from getting advance copies.
Why waste the trillions of dollars in school buildings?
We'd still need local teachers but they could work from home offices too.
They wouldn't give classes, but would help students who needed extra help and grade homework and tests.
Time to bring education into the modern era.
The old fashioned school house with kids penned up in bunches is inefficient.
jataga5000 posted at 3:21 pm on Sat, Dec 22, 2012.
Az Willie, kudos for thinking outside the box. Your idea is similar to what some Republicans are advocating except that they want to be able to funnel the money to their cronies. Besides, we all know that Republicans don't like to spend money for public education.
The real issue isn't armed guards in schools, that is a red herring, but the over saturation of guns in our society. Why not place a yearly tax on guns such as Canada does. Speaking as a veteran, most who crow the 2nd Amendment rights and portend to be a patriot were not willing to serve in this countrys military.
The NRA has no problem suggesting spending someone elses money on armed guards. The message really is tone deaf but worse, irrational. It may be easy to shoot, but what happens when you are shot at for then is when you find out about the nerve of the person. As long as the Lobbyiest control the dialog on any critical subject in this country it will be the citizens who lose.
Trans posted at 9:11 am on Fri, Dec 28, 2012.
"Trained?" How many times have I heard that word lately! I would say US Border Patrol Agents are "trained". Yet a couple of months ago we saw them shooting at each other in "confusion", and one ended up dead - not at the hand of Mexican drug dealers, but by another border guard! In NY, when "trained" cops responded to a shooter outside the Empire State Building, 9 innocent people were shot by police, as they were aiming at the shooter. So let's put "trained" personnel in the schools! What could go wrong?
Dale Whiting posted at 4:57 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.
Let's have La Pierre pay for these armed guards. On his $1,000,000 salary he could easily cover 20 of them.[beam]