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Posted: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:51 pm

A special board approved plans Wednesday to train police officers on how they can and cannot enforce new laws aimed at illegal immigrants but left unresolved for now a key element: what provides police the "reasonable suspicion" they need to question people.

Members of the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training Board ratified plans to create a video of perhaps 60 to 90 minutes explaining the key elements of SB 1070. Its key provision requires police, as part of any stop, detention or arrest, to check someone's immigration status if there is "reasonable suspicion" the person is not in this country legally.

Board Executive Director Lyle Mann stressed that officers watching the video will be told they cannot engage in "racial profiling" or even consider someone's race, ethnicity or national origin. But he sidestepped questions of exactly how officers would develop the necessary reasonable suspicion without considering those factors

"Race is not an (indicator) of criminality," he said, saying the fact that there are so many Latinos in Arizona is a reason why that cannot be a factor. The criteria, he said, are still being determined.

What are likely to be factors, though, are whether the person is particularly nervous, whether answers are evasive and even how someone is dressed, according to Hipolito Acosta. He is a former Immigration and Naturalization Service officer who now is a consultant. He has been retained by AzPOST to help spell out for officers when they can feel free, after someone is stopped for some other reason, to question further.

Acosta told Capitol Media Services the bottom line is that officers will have to be able to articulate specific reasons for inquiring, reasons that under Arizona law cannot include race.

The push ahead with a training plan comes even though Mann conceded that nothing in the law - or even the executive order by Gov. Jan Brewer to create the video - actually requires that officers watch it or show they understand it before they are allowed to go out and enforce the new law when it takes effect July 29.

That phrase "reasonable suspicion" has raised concerns among some that it leaves too much discretion for officers. That, in turn, was at least part of the reason Brewer specifically directed AzPOST to come up with a training program for police.

That's where Acosta and his 30 years of experience comes in. He outlined for Capitol Media Services what an officer who has pulled over a vehicle for some other reason is likely to consider.

"There's some type of action on the individual where they try to avoid eye contact with an officer or they are very nervous or refuse to acknowledge an officer that's there" when under normal circumstances the occupants of a vehicle "would have nothing to be nervous about," he said.

Acosta said that probably everyone gets nervous when stopped by police, no matter what that person's race. But he said officers will notice conduct or demeanor that appears out of the ordinary.

How someone is dressed also fits into that.

"They're wearing clothing that appears that they have been traveling," Acosta explained. "The clothing might not really be used in that particular area."

Having foreign-branded clothes also would be an indicator, he said, though not by itself given international trade. But he said an officer might also notice that clothing is being carried in a plastic bag, leading to a conclusion the person is not in this country legally.

And the visible presence of foreign passports or documents also would provide a piece of the puzzle.

Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, a key proponent of the legislation, said his own experience as a police detective in New York looking for drugs leads him to believe the concept is not as difficult as it sounds.

"We had a whole list of reasonable suspicion criteria that were quite effective," he said. "But the last thing I would do is put it on camera so every possible drug courier would know what to look for. And the same is true here."

He said, though, people should not be worried they will be targeted for questioning based on their appearance.

"There is no illegal look," Kavanagh said. "Short of running away from a federal detention center in an orange jump suit, there is nothing about a person's appearance that would lead anybody to suspect, much less know, that you're illegal."

Pressed further, Kavanagh said appearance can matter.

"Obviously, if you see somebody dressed in a manner that they look like they just spent three days trekking across the desert, and you're near the border, that might be one factor that might let you approach ‘reasonable suspicion,'" he said.

The unresolved aspects of the training weren't a concern to Bryan Soller, president of Fraternal Order of Police's Mesa Lodge No. 9. Police are already trained on reasonable suspicion and how to avoid racial profiling, Soller said.

"I don't think our officers are going to do that," Soller said.

A larger concern for him is that only a small number of officers have training from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, through a program called 287(g). The training allows local police to enforce some aspects of federal immigration law. Soller said the instruction would help officers know what kinds of identification cards are legitimate or potentially forged.

"Most officers don't have that," he said. "That's the biggest training we need."

Other than Acosta, Mann has lined up 11 others to appear on the training video to discuss various aspects of the law.

That includes two retired Phoenix police officers who represent the Arizona Police Association and who lobbied in favor of the law. According to the outline approved Wednesday, they will "present the issue from their perspective" on the training video.

What it does not include is anyone from Hispanic community groups or civil rights organizations which might have a different perspective on the law and what issues to which officers should be sensitive.

"The issue that I'm charged with has to do with training the officers," Mann responded, saying he is "sympathetic" to how Latinos see the law. Mann said he believes the training will address those concerns without the need for participation in the video by members of the minority community.

And he defended using the two officers, saying they were being included not because they lobbied for the bill, but because they are veterans.

Tribune reporter Garin Groff contributed to this story.

 

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4 comments:

  • DataMan posted at 4:42 pm on Wed, May 19, 2010.

    DataMan Posts: 160

    With AzPOST developing this, why is MCSO paying Kris Kobach (the guy that actually wrote the law) $300/hr to train all of MCSO?

     
  • forkedlift1 posted at 6:13 pm on Wed, May 19, 2010.

    forkedlift1 Posts: 447

    Hmm, not one mention of language, accent or dialect as a possible element leading to "reasonable suspicion."

    No mention either of city code "law enforcement officials" and parking meter "law enforcement officials" who enforce "any other law or ordinance of a county, city or town of this state" who will also be in need of training.

    There was a special effort by the crafters of this bill to use the term "law enforcement official" pertaining to "the enforcement of any other law" to distinguish them from "peace officer" which is the term used a number of times later in the bill.

    It is these code "law enforcement officials," not the police, who visit residents at their homes when alleged violations of property upkeep ordinances occur, (e.g., grass too tall, disabled vehicle in driveway, broken fence, etc.) The police (peace officers) are out of the enforcement loop for these ordinance infractions except for very extreme circumstances.

    These city code "law enforcement officials" will also need this training, since it is they who visit residents and enforce these laws. They will need to be apprised of what constitutes "reasonable suspicion" when Spanish speaking Luis Latino or Hector Hispanic opens his door to that "law enforcement official" who is not in the employ of the city's police department.

    The examples given of the "Luis" and "Hector" homes/properties are not drop houses which savvy police handle after being alerted to same. Rather, these not uncommon code enforcement occurrences, at least in my city, are initiated either by the city or a complaining neighbor's call to the city.

    More training and videos needed for cities who employ code and parking meter "law enforcement officers"

    Maybe this will all be over by July 29, if from nothing else, from the economic boycotts or verboten travel to the state that are growing daily.
    I think the latest are from Columbus, Ohio and Seattle.


     
  • allamer posted at 6:44 pm on Wed, May 19, 2010.

    allamer Posts: 160

    Reasonable suspicion that someone has broken a law is how all law enforcement officers everywhere protect the public on a daily basis. Officers patrolling our streets investigate anything they observe which they recognize as a potential law violation. It is not a new concept. The overdone concern raised about the new Arizona law is not sincere; it is political.

     
  • forkedlift1 posted at 8:46 am on Thu, May 20, 2010.

    forkedlift1 Posts: 447

    Good point, DataMan. It deserves an answer.
    Here's the relevant portion of the open ended 10/13/09 signed contract/agreement between Kobach and the law firm representing Arpaio.

    Oct 13, 2009

    "Client shall pay Dr. Kobach a retainer fee of $1,500.00 per month. Dr. Kobach's time will be billed at a rate of $300.00 per hour. Time will be billed in increments of one-tenth of an hour…..The first full retainer of $1,500.00 per month shall begin with the month of October 2009.
    "Client shall also be responsible for advancing any costs incurred by Dr. Kobach, including costs of investigation, telephone expenses, postage, court costs, mileage, travel expenses, hotel costs, and any other necessary costs incurred or advanced by Dr. Kobach on behalf of client."

    Also, a 10/13/10 email from the Maricopa County Attorney's office to a private attorney has as its subject "Kris Kobach -- expert for MCSO" and also states, "The Sheriff's Office is submitting this request."

    http://vvoice.vo.llnwd.net/e14/4599341.0.pdf

    I was appalled at Kobach's misrepresentation of the contents of SB1070, which HE takes credit for writing, which appeared in the 5/10/10 Arizona Republic, "The mind behind SB1070." The lengthy article consists of Kobach's verbatim answers to five specific questions by the Republic.

    All indications are that the Kobach/MCSO agreement is still operative.
    However, the executive order for Arizona POST was to provide enforcement directives for ALL law enforcement agencies of the state.

    It remains to be seen if Arpaio/Hendershott will comply with Arizona POST's recommended enforcement procedures....or if it will be "business as usual" from the MCSO if SB1070 becomes operational.

     

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