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Operation 'Fast and Furious' winds up lost

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10 comments:

  • RationalHuman posted at 12:49 pm on Thu, Aug 4, 2011.

    RationalHuman Posts: 514

    Poor Jose...his idealistic racsim has blinded him to the most important issue, which he even mentions in the first sentence of his article.

    To wit - "military-grade weapons" - CANNOT BE BOUGHT BY CIVILIANS AT A GUN SHOP. And yet the ATF is claiming all these weapons came from civilian gun shops.

    Why are they lying and refusing to disclose the military arms depot these weapons came from?

     
  • RationalHuman posted at 1:44 pm on Thu, Aug 4, 2011.

    RationalHuman Posts: 514

    More importantly, why hasn't Eric Holder, the head of an organization that has supplied military grade weapons to terrorist groups, been brought up on charges and arrested?

     
  • AmericanPatriot posted at 4:23 pm on Thu, Aug 4, 2011.

    AmericanPatriot Posts: 235

    RationalHuman, all can be explained with one word, apathy. As long as the beer swilling, TV addicted, football watching mongrels have enough distractions from reality, nothing will ever change, and the rats can lie all they want. Most people, if they are ask, will tell you that all politicians lie most of the time yet they seem to be able to say that without getting angry about it. Apathy is running rampant and nobody cares. They love to call those guns military grade weapons cause the apathetic people don't understand the difference and it sounds so much more dangerous. Most people if they want can buy a military grade "fully automatic" assault rifle, but they cost a mint and you need a special, very hard to get, license, and they wont let you have a dozen even if you have a lot of money and can afford them. The drug cartels wouldn't pay what these guns would cost on the American market when they can get all they want from either the corrupt Mexican army or the world black market. If the drug cartels have American made fully automatic assault rifles then they probably got them from either the American government or The Mexican government, and the Mexican government got theirs from the American government, so they all come from the same source, and that ain't from gun stores from the 4 states that border Mexico.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 7:56 pm on Thu, Aug 4, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    Hey Jose, we'll pay those costs if MEXICO, et al, pay the USA for the costs we have endured for the MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS that have come partake of what isn't really meant for them. I'm not greedy, I only want you to pay for the last 10 years. Once that's done, then we'll take care of your beef.

    Sound fair?

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 5:57 am on Fri, Aug 5, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    Bureaucrats do dumb things. When their acts are intentional and undertaken under circumstances where the reasonable person would comprehend the risks as being too great, they need to be prosecuted. When their acts are undertaken in igornance of the risks, they need to be fired.

    I have never been so dissapointed in the ATF [thought they were not called ATFE, bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives].

     
  • NothingButTheTruth posted at 12:42 pm on Fri, Aug 5, 2011.

    NothingButTheTruth Posts: 652

    Dale I'm not so sure it was just a dumb thing as you say. I mean, if there wasn't an ulterior motive, their actions were retarded. Even though it was a failure in it's quest to prove that American guns are flooding across the border, they still used it to enforce a new law making the 4 border states report multiple semi-auto rifles sales which will only cause economic hardships for border state gun shops at best.

     
  • chatmandu002 posted at 1:05 pm on Fri, Aug 5, 2011.

    chatmandu002 Posts: 997

    The reason this is not on the table for discussion is because it happened on the watch of a liberal president which the liberal media will not pursue. If this would have happened during a conservative administration then all hell would have broken loose. Remember the Iran Contra Affair.

    The liberal/progressive media will not hold the liberal democratic administration to the same standards as a conservative administration.

     
  • AmericanPatriot posted at 8:03 pm on Fri, Aug 5, 2011.

    AmericanPatriot Posts: 235

    chatmandu002, I couldn't have stated it better. The liberal media doesn't care, but the retarded masses care even less.

     
  • Dale Whiting posted at 12:02 pm on Sun, Aug 7, 2011.

    Dale Whiting Posts: 3705

    I know something which happened during a conservative administration, a dumb if not criminal thing to have done, which has not been investigated but which has been swept under the table by both liberals and conservatives. It's called the Iraq war. And focus on Iraq lead to a negligent thing to do, which until May 1 got swept away too, The chase for bin Laden in an Afghanistan war. The issue of the ADFE's loosing guns along our border with Mexico pails in comparision with Iraq and Afghanistan.

     
  • Masterrogue666 posted at 7:10 am on Fri, Aug 12, 2011.

    Masterrogue666 Posts: 1797

    Gee, Dale, I guess you'd like to have all those terrorist types over here killing civilians, eh?

    The leader of Iraq attacked a neighbor, whom in turn, asked the USA for help. Said leader didn't learn from the first pasting we gave him. But hey, what else can one expect from a Mad-man?

    Afgan still has the Taliban.

    My question is why are we in Libya? They've hated the USA for years! Now they want our help?

     

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