Gov. Jan Brewer said Wednesday she is open to the idea of denying automatic citizenship to children of illegal immigrants even though she conceded that's not what she was taught in school.
"I think that it's worthwhile to have it vetted and debated," the governor said in response to the proposal by several Arizona legislators to have the state and not the federal government determine citizenship. Brewer said she wants to hear more details from the sponsors.
But various Hispanic activist groups and several Democratic lawmakers said separately Wednesday they think the idea should be stillborn.
Senate Minority Leader David Schapira, D-Tempe, noted the state is facing an immediate $825 million deficit for the balance of this fiscal year, with an anticipated $1.4 billion gap between revenues and expenses for the new budget year that begins July 1. Yet he said Rep. John Kavanagh, R-Fountain Hills, who chairs the House Appropriations Committee, went to Washington this week - just days ahead of the session scheduled to begin Monday - to be part of a press conference "on an issue that has nothing to do with Arizona's fiscal situation."
Kavanagh said the criticisms are predictable.
"If they don't want to argue the merits or lack of merits of the Birthright Citizenship bill, then they should just be quiet," he said, rather that making "attacks that don't even have a foundation in truth." Anyway, Kavanagh said he has been working on the budget for the past two months.
But even Brewer said she is concerned that a high-profile debate over who gets a citizenship birth certificate and who does not might become a distraction away from the central issue of the state's finances.
"I think our first priority, of course, is to get the budget out, secondly, to get our economy and jobs created here in Arizona for the people of Arizona," the governor said. "If we can accomplish those things, I think that's our No. 1 priority."
Under the plan, states that pass the legislation would have two types of birth certificates: one when a parent could show citizenship or permanent residency, and a different one labeled as a certificate of birth for a non-citizen.
Senate President-elect Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, one of the chief proponents of the plan, said that would restore the 14th Amendment to the original post-Civil War intent of ensuring that blacks, particularly former slaves, are citizens.
Brewer conceded what Pearce and other sponsors want goes against what has been the law of the land for more than a century.
"What I would believe is what we all learned in regards to the Constitution in that particular 14th Amendment is that if you were born in the United States that you became a citizen of the United States," she said. But that, the governor said, does not automatically make the proposal improper.
And she specifically rejected the possibility that having Arizona legislators taking the national lead on this issue gives the state a reputation of intolerance.
"I think what it says is that Arizona's on the forefront of this border issue," Brewer said. She said it is the responsibility of Arizona legislators to deal with this kind of issue.
"We know that there are people coming across the border, having babies, getting United States citizenship," the governor said. "I don't know if they feel we can sustain that."
But Antonio Bustamante called that argument "nonsense." He said granting citizenship to all children born in this country is not an incentive to cross the border illegally.
"They do not come here so their children will be U.S. citizens," said Bustamante, a member of Los Abogados, the state's Hispanic bar association.
"They come here because we demand their presence because we have labor that has to be filled," he said. "And they're going to come here regardless."
Bustamante called the legislation "mean-spirited racism."
Slabside posted at 3:52 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
Brewer, I support you 100%! We have to take Arizona then America back from the illegals. We can't support them and ourselves.
Richka posted at 4:12 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
Yes, Mr. Bustamante, they do come here for that very reason. Having a child born in the US to illegal parents comes with a large variety of benefits for this now "citizen" child, starting with medical benefits, food stamps, cash welfare, housing assistance (even if the other 10 living in that household are illegal), and a free education..... all compliments of the american tax payers.
As a former Social Worker, most of my case load consisted of pregnant foreign born women in this country illegally.. Some had a child every year and the benefits kept on multiplying.
If anyone doubts my statements, please visit your local Social Service Department for verification of the facts.
joepierce1988 posted at 4:19 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
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If anyone doubts my statements, please visit your local Social Service Department for verification of the facts.
Arizona Willie posted at 4:22 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
They claim children of illegals shouldn't be penalized for the crime( s ) of their parents.
NEITHER SHOULD THEY BENEFIT!!!
If my father embezzles 250,00 dollars and dies and leaves me the money in safe deposit box ... the authorities would NOT let me keep the money if they knew about it.
I am not allowed to benefit from my parent( s ) crime ( s ).
Why should the children of people who broke our immigration laws and -- very likely -- identity theft laws be allowed to benefit from their parent ( s) crime ( s ) ?
Accuracy posted at 4:37 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
“Gov. Jan Brewer said Wednesday she is open to the idea of denying automatic citizenship to children of illegal immigrants even though she conceded that's not what she was taught in school.”
She’s got that right!
The 14th Amendment reads: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States."
Born in the U.S.A. is birthright citizenship, and that has always been taught.
The proposed legislation to deny automatic citizenship to children of illegal immigrants will mean that that only a judge can say that someone is a U.S. citizen.
EmperorSmith posted at 5:49 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
jurisdiction thereof is the kicker. The president is birthright I don't see it happening as much I might like to.
Dale Whiting posted at 6:40 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
Ok, the review of the above comments I just gave was cursory. So if I put anyone's comment into this general category wrongly, please accept my oppology. You all are missing the point. Here is how and why.
Turns out that this Tribune Article and its Wednesday companion artical on Pearce omit a very crutial point. Accorting to the Channel 12 News, and they taped the person saying this, the drafter of the bill maintains that it is not a challenge to the 14th amendment. Here again, both pundits and news reporters are wrong.
Supposededly, the bill creates two classes citizenship. Those born to at least one Citizen Parent whose parent or parents prove their citizenship are given a birth certificate saying that they are Arizona Citizens, the new class of citizen. Those whose parents do not show proof are given a non-descript birth certificate. So Arizona is not stepping on or over the 14th Amendment regarding who is and who is not a US natural born citizen.
This makes sense. States do get to decide what their residency requirements are. And here AZ is acting to do a bit more by defining who is and who is not a natural born Arizona Citizen. Wonder if after living here for 30 years and being a native born US Citizen, am I also an Arizona Citizen. I suppose I'll have to read this bill. But if Channel 12 is correct, all it does is address some otherwise meaningless language on most Arizona Birth Certificates. Much too much to do about nothing! This should not present a problem, unless you consider Arizona's doing werd things is a problem. But where Pearce and Brewer join with other states and waive the flag of litigation, they appear to be doing more than acting werd.
Once again, before we render intelligent opinions, we need the facts.
Tribune, get the facts, the whole and complete facts.
rrjenn posted at 7:24 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
Arizona Willie, they should have no expectation for reward nor should we be penalized by this ridicules anchor baby factory the libertards have been running for way too long now.
Wrong as usual Dale. It will dictate who gets and does not get government benefits here in AZ. If you are a citizen you get them but if all you have is a birth certificate that says you aren't a citizen then you get nothing. Now we fully expect a lawsuit and we welcome anyone with a non citizen birth certificate to sue us so it will get to the US Supreme Court. It is expected and desired. Oh, there will be many other states with the same law so it will be interesting how they react. Now as soon as an illegal anchor baby gets denied his or her welfare and food stamps, they will sue and away we go. We want the lawsuits and we will pay for the fight so you open border nitwits can't complain about how much money it's going to cost us.
Yes Accuracy, we want a judge to define what a citizen is and what it is not. Better than having libertard open border nitwits decide for us. Why would anyone want such an important thing to be decided on what patch of dirt you were born on?
EmperorSmith posted at 7:41 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
The court in the past gave citizenship to children of illegal Chinese based on the 14th.
EagleAZ posted at 7:50 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
A natural born citizen is a child born to American Citizens, not one and a foreigner. A non-citizen child is born to foreigners. Apparently Bustamante hasn't seen the parking lots of hospital emergency rooms where foreigners wait for the moment the woman goes into labor then races into the hospital not speaking a word of English but ready to pop out the anchor baby. These people do NOT pay for the birth of their child, the post natal care of the child or the care of the mother. They are immediately entitled to welfare, food stamps, WIC, and all the other programs set up for them. Don't tell me they come here just for the work to be responsible working Americans, the hell they do. Believers of this garbage need to do their homework and see how many hospitals take in and deliver these anchor babies everyday and how much its costing their states and taxpayers to 100% support them for everything they take from us. I support this bill and all bills sent to legislation regarding foreigners. They use us up and spit us out while claims it is their land and they won't stop coming until we are all gone and they have made the south part of Mexico. How many live videos and pictures do you need to watch before you truly understand why they are here. They DON'T want to be Americans. If they are Americans they are forced to work, pay taxes and then they will have to support the foreigners too. They just killed their meal ticket.
Brittanicus posted at 8:35 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
OVERBURDENED TAXPAYERS MUST SPEAK UP NOW?
A welfare program that defies logic is the fiscal impact of the misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, drawing each year thousands of illegal pregnant women in some cases husbands who are intentionally bring their unborn child, to become a huge financial burden to taxpayers, who are forced by law to support the baby and mother under the provision the Instant citizenship law. It is estimated that 300.000 pregnant women claim citizenship for their children annually, which costs are magnified as the female keeps giving birth. That means--ONE--in--THIRTEEN is a child of an illegal alien. The parents stay and then have more babies that the taxed-out American is forced to pay for. Add Key word terminology of certain words into Google or other search engine and judge for yourself, how Americans have been fooled to pay higher taxes to pay for this enigma in the law; as an example--Illegal Alien costs.
In 1994, 74,987 instant citizen babies in maternity wards cost taxpayers $215 million in Stockton, California, without paying a penny. In 2003, 70 percent of the 2,300 babies born in San Joaquin General maternity units were from illegal parents. That number has exploded today with over four million illegal aliens residing are now residing in California. Then nine out of ten babies born in Parkland Hospital in Dallas, Texas stem from illegal immigrant mothers. Additional costs for illegal alien children stem from a pay day for lawyers, translators, advocates and middlemen. Medi-Cal in 2003 sponsored 760,000 illegal alien offspring in Supplemental Security Income. SSI is a non-means-treated federal grant of cash payments and food stamps anf government medical care. With over three million illegal nationals arriving annually, they birth 300,000 newly issued birth certificates babies in California alone and you pay the maximum in taxes. When these legal ‘American’ babies grow reach 18, they can sponsor through ‘chain migration’ their whole family into our country. We are talking about a crisis so monolithic, your children and this nation will not survive it. The consequences are unacceptable and the cost yearly in hundreds of billions is incomprehensible?
THE SIMPLE FACT THAT INSTANT CITIZENSHIP BABY LAW WAS CONSTRUCTED FOR NEWLY RELEASED SLAVES, AS AT THE TIME OF THE CIVIL WAR THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS ILLEGAL ALIENS IN AMERICA? SO THE QUESTION THAT SHOULD BE ASKED BY STATES AND EVENTUALLY THE SUPREME COURT IS HOW CAN THIS AMENDMENT APPLY TO FOREIGN NATIONALS, IN THE FIRST INSTANCE? ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE ILLEGAL AND SHOULD BE DEPORTED.
IT SHOULD BE REMEMBERED THAT ORDINARY TAXPAYING AMERICANS ARE THE--STUCKEE--FOR FARM OWNERS, CORPORATE AND BUSINESSES--LARGE AND SMALL, WHICH IS SIMPLY A CRIMINAL CORPORATE GIANT WELFARE PROGRAM.
Unseen to the Public eye is the Amnesties that are activated silently since 2002; seven in all, along with an average of 1.5 million legal immigrants that ends up in the US workplace, while an estimated 15 million citizens and permanent residents remain jobless? The US government rather hesitantly stated that for every ONE dollar illegal aliens get in Social Services, they receive back in tax credits, food stamps and whole mass of programs--THREE dollars.
Now it’s up to the American people to speak out, get involved and demand from the new Congress a halt to any further Amnesties, which includes the Dream Act Stand with States, the rising, unbounded TEA PARTY that are adjoined to mandate E-Verify nationally, to condemn any irrational Immigration Reform as this recession is very slowly lifting. America has been overwhelmed by foreign nationals and their children, who keep demanding special privileges over our own low income people. Every day the numbers of illegal aliens are climbing and you as an American or green card holder pay the penalty in your taxes. Don't be mislead that there are only 12 million illegal immigrant criminals in this country?
State wide there are propagating grass roots organization, that are against this invasion crossing oceans or borders to further overpopulate www.numbersusa.com partially instrumental in any amnesty downfall. Now is the time to significantly make a difference in the new Congress, by adding your demands to millions of other individuals to enforce our Immigration laws, as cited in the 1986 bill. Call your Senator or Congressman through the Washington Switchboard at 202-224-3121 Every American should make it a national interest to stop this immigration travesty and realize that there are thousands of ominous organizations against you. Most politicians are mentally crippled by this issue and rather stay out of the spotlight. Find out for yourself the intentions of your elected lawmakers, local, state and federal and tell them to positively address this issue or you will vote against them in the next election.
EmperorSmith posted at 9:17 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
seal the border!
EmperorSmith posted at 9:49 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
slab is right cut and paste
rrjenn posted at 10:09 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
"The court in the past gave citizenship to children of illegal Chinese based on the 14th." Yes, in the past. You may have noticed EmperorSmith that we live in the present.
EmperorSmith posted at 10:36 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
the past is what guides us to the future. I am on your boat I don't know what will happen
fretsward posted at 11:11 pm on Wed, Jan 5, 2011.
All one has to do is mention the menace of illegal immigration and you are designated the mahatma and dithyrambic inhumane right-winger that sentinels of racial human shields ardently detest.
That they propose we honor 10s of millions of illegal aliens with American citizenship with no more virtue than jumping a fence is caustic. People illegally entering our country have no right to demand anything, or suggest how we interpret our laws.
They most certainly have the right to petition the government of Mexico. If illegal aliens wish (wink) to be Americans, there is a way to do so. It starts in Mexico.
You do not allow a demographic that considers Americans the enemy the privilege of being here.
The 1866 Congress confirms that two citizenship clauses - one in the 14th Amendment, and one in the 1866 Civil Rights Act - were intended to have the same meaning and effect.
The primary framers of the 14th Amendment citizenship clause, Sen. Jacob Howard and Sen. Lyman Trumbull, made it clear that "jurisdiction," as used in the 14th Amendment means sole and complete US jurisdiction, i.e., not subject to any foreign power.
Sen. Lyman Trumbull: The provision is, that "all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens." That means "subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof." What do we mean by "complete jurisdiction thereof?"
Not owing allegiance to anybody else, or any other country. That is what it means.
Sen. Jacob Howard: I concur entirely with the honorable Sen. from Illinois, in holding that the word "jurisdiction," as here employed, ought to be construed so as to imply a full and complete jurisdiction on the part of the US, coextensive in all respects with the constitutional power of the US, whether exercised by Congress, by the executive, or by the judicial department; that is to say, the same jurisdiction in extent and quality as applies to every citizen of the US now.
A person born in this country, to a citizen of another country is not subject to the "full and complete jurisdiction" of the United States.
It doesn’t get any clearer than that.
Our laws mean nothing to them. We must never believe anything that comes from Mexico, its people, and its poltroons who insist they illegally come to this country in a daily deluge.
Eventually, generations more masses of illegitimate squatters are deposited and continue the hatred, racism, fraud, and declination that the world’s picture-perfect kleptocracy instills. How many is enough? We cannot continue to be the de facto welfare state of Mexico and survive as a nation...
cynthiah posted at 6:06 am on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
EagleAZ you hit the nail on the head!! I am a white American born citizen married 22 years to a wonderful man born in Mexico. However he was a perminent resident before we got married, therefor we have always worked and have paid our taxes!!and believe me we pay!! Now he comes from a very large family and I can tell you it makes me SICK to see all of his nieces and nephews and even a brother's illegal wife having babies!! Not having to pay for a thing!!! Benefits all the way to the bank. They work under false names and then somehow they are allowed to file taxes ubder someone else's name... Here is what is really crazy this has actually been reported and nothing gets done. 2 people in the family have been able to purchase homes in this county!! Remember they are here illegally, unable to work!! Yea right.. He has a nephew that was hired at a factory, fired because his s.s. # wasn't good how was this handled the office at the factory gave him someone else's s.s.# and is still currently employed there. Just bought a house. Have a illigel sister in law working at a plastic factory I have a white sister in law married to my brother with 18 years of experience in factory work not to mention plastics and she is without a job and has applied at this factory. If they came here and had a child and had to actually pay for EVERYTHING trust me they wouldn't have them. I pray they pass this law A.S.A.P. They eat up this system..
Dale Whiting posted at 10:31 am on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
OK, Kindergarten Class, it's time to shut up, fold your arms on your desk, put your head on those folded arms, shut up and listen.
The Trib's title on this artical, i.e. "Proposal to change 14th Amendment draws fire and support" probably is wrong. And even though Pearce and Brewer think they are headed to a decision in court over the 14th Amendment, tthey probably are wrong, at least according to the person who drafted Pearce's bill.
Now, if Arizona decides to use this new class of citizenship, "Arizona Citizenship" to grant benefits, those benfits had better not be federally mandated or they will be in court.
I'm all for denying illegal aliens both state and federal beneifts. The principle is simple. "No pay, no play." But as I understand it, the major benefits being provided are emergency room medical care [no one brings their birth certificate or passport with them to the emergency room], and public education [do we want to have the streets crowded with the children if illegal aliens?] I won't count police protection. Until SB1070 that was provided to all.
Now if any of you pundits have good information, not BS, on the subject of what federal benefits are being provided to any human being regardless of documentation and what are being provided on a vague assumption of documentation, please correct me and inform us all. Otherwise, this group of pundits ought to keep their heads on their folded arms, mouths shut and listen.
Wisdom begins with knowing what you don't know and grows by learning what you can learn, not guessing and misleading others by your guesses and ignorance. Only "Neo-cons" enjoy wandering in the desert of sheer ignorance.
rrjenn posted at 11:22 am on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
fretsward
Well stated. I've tried in the past to explain this, but the open border crowd refuses, for obvious reasons, to understand.
Dale, the reason illegals go to emergency rooms is due to them being so poor as to not be able to afford medical insurance. No one should be denied emergency care except to those who come in with non-emergency non-life threatening illnesses. We do not owe them an education, welfare, food stamps, employment, or any other state or federal benefits. Deny these benefits and the anchor baby incentive and they will go back to their country of origin. This is the solution you keep saying is impossible.
Rich posted at 3:44 pm on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
"A person born in this country, to a citizen of another country is not subject to the "full and complete jurisdiction" of the United States."
The only logical conclusion to be drawn from this statement is that they are not 'illegal.' Is that what you meant? If they are not subject to the "full and complete jurisdiction" of the United States, you can't deport them. I thought that was what you wanted to do?
Cerulean posted at 5:32 pm on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
Thank you Dale Whiting. I found your post very informative.
fretsward posted at 10:00 pm on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
rrjenn
I am amazed at how they ignore American citizens and feign to be at odds with politicians exclusively regarding this gargantuan version of smash and grab.
It’s as if we are invisible, and our demands mean unconditionally zero to them.
This wholesale theft has created a perverse inducement for the tsunami of Mexicans to break US law, the unprecedented declination of moral etiquette, and has established itself to be the making of a nation killing cataclysm we may never recover from.
But it’s exactly what La Raza wants. They will even sacrifice themselves just to claim ownership for lands grants allegedly deeded to them by the Spanish (which they never occupied).
Groups of Lawmakers from Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Georgia and Arizona divulged a legal prototype they said would be pressed in the initial stage, up to 40 states to deny scam birthright citizenship to children of illegal immigrants - a misinterpreted right fraud of the 14th Amendment.
The future legislation would require that all birth certificates note the citizenship or immigration status of the parents, including if they are here illegally.
The lawmakers’ hands are forced by the American taxpayers who demand such laws incite lawsuits and force an appraisal of the Amendment by the US Supreme Court and Congress.
The National Council of La Raza’s Murguia, and The Immigration Policy Center (ACLUs Mexican Charter) call the proposal mean spirited.
This blatant disrespect and disregard cannot remain at this course. I do not condone it, but they will sooner than later witness a side of the American citizen they’ve yet to be introduced to…
rrjenn posted at 10:36 pm on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
Rich said ""A person born in this country, to a citizen of another country is not subject to the "full and complete jurisdiction" of the United States."
The only logical conclusion to be drawn from this statement is that they are not 'illegal.' Is that what you meant? If they are not subject to the "full and complete jurisdiction" of the United States, you can't deport them. I thought that was what you wanted to do?"
Problem you have is summed up in your last thought. Try not thinking and maybe that will help.
rrjenn posted at 11:26 pm on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
Some parts of California are starting to wake up from this bad dream
Part of California Takes On Illegal Hiring
By IAN LOVETT
Published: January 4, 2011
MURRIETA, Calif. — Protests erupted across Southern California last year when Arizona adopted its tough immigration law: immigrant rights advocates staged rallies in cities like San Diego and Santa Barbara; Los Angeles severed economic ties with Arizona.
But just 50 miles east of Los Angeles, a handful of cities have started crackdowns similar to those in Arizona on businesses that hire illegal immigrants.
In what may be the single most Democratic state in the country, with a huge, fast-growing Latino population, the area known as the Inland Empire — a sprawl of suburbs, old and new — has emerged as a pocket of ideological resistance in a state that has grown increasingly averse to crackdowns on immigration.
Late last month, Murrieta became the fifth Inland Empire city to require all businesses to check the legal status of new employees with E-Verify, an online federal government system designed to confirm employment eligibility. Businesses that do not comply could lose their licenses.
Just north of a highway immigration checkpoint, Murrieta and Temecula, where an E-Verify ordinance took effect on Saturday, are cities with white-majority populations, surrounded by agricultural wine-growing areas. With unemployment near 15 percent in much of the Inland Empire, locals say illegal immigrants have inundated industries like fast-food and construction, leaving American citizens unable to find jobs. Their complaints echo some of those that helped lead to the crackdown in Arizona.
Do you open border idiots not see what is happening to America?
rrjenn posted at 11:32 pm on Thu, Jan 6, 2011.
Kentucky immigration bill is stricter than Arizona's law
By Beth Musgrave
The Lexington Herald-Leader
FRANKFORT — Opponents of an immigration bill filed Tuesday by Senate Republicans say it goes even further than a controversial Arizona law that has been challenged in federal court by President Barack Obama's administration.
Senate Bill 6 was one of several filed Tuesday that is backed by GOP leaders, who have said they hope to pass the measure by the end of this week.
Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/05/2001154/kentucky-immigration-bill-is-stricter.html#ixzz1AKQlKubm
fretsward posted at 12:47 am on Fri, Jan 7, 2011.
Dale Whiting
There is no change. Last year, 92 Congressmen sponsored the bill that would amend (reinterpret the misinterpretation) the14th Amendment so that children born to illegal aliens parents would not be granted citizenship in the United States. The bill is still in committee.
It takes more than scaling a fence to become an American citizen.
This new coalition's objective is to provide the means for local, state, and federal officials to work together to end practices that encourage illegal immigration that has put a massive strain on social services. The group chose ending Birthright Citizenship as the key issue because the practice provides a fraudulent tactic for illegal aliens to advance residency in the United States.
The group timed the press conference with the swearing in ceremony of the 112th Congress, sending a message that Congress will be forced to aggressively address the illegal alien problem.
The US and Canada are the only two technologically advanced nations, as determined by the World Bank, to still grant automatic citizenship to all children born in the countries. Canada is terminating the scam.
According to the framers of the 14th Amendment, the decisive requirements for US citizenship are dependent on total allegiance to America, not the elucidation steered by lawless people with an agenda.
The Lawmakers are calling themselves State Legislators for Legal Immigration. They want to bring an end to the out-of-control illegal-alien invasion that is having such a deleterious effect on every state.
The measure is the accomplishment of Kansas Secretary of State-elect Kris Kobach, University of Missouri law professor who also authored Arizona's brilliant immigration law.
By his interpretation, the 14th Amendment's reference to citizens being those "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" the United States disqualifies the children of illegal aliens because their parents owe no loyalty to this country.
Hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens are unlawfully crossing US borders to give birth and exploit their children as anchor babies - but Americans only for the benefits, as the means to obtain scam residency, gain unmitigated access to taxpayer-funded benefits, undercut Americans for jobs, take anything else they can, and eventually do.
Allowing The National Council of La Raza, LULAC, and the ACLU to decree their interpretation subterfuge has encircled the Amendment, and the Constitutional ramifications have left us with this enormous anchor baby eminence. However, the Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) has now provided expert legal research and analysis to ensure the plain English- straightforward legislative solutions that will meet any Constitutional challenges brought against it once enacted by state Legislatures across the nation.
America’s immigration laws must protect the lives, liberty and property of American citizens, rather than foreign invaders. Terminating Birthright Scam is the importance because it is in fact, a backdoor amnesty for millions of illegal aliens, the majority Mexican citizens who unashamedly demonstrate dishonesty to institute the disgrace that has beset the citizenship we value.
Anchor babies are categorically welfare babies, permitting illegal alien parents to apply for and receive welfare, healthcare, and other US social benefits that usually amount to thousands of dollars each month per anchor baby and those who are fictitious.
These taxpayer funded benefits amounts to tens of billions of dollars per year. To make matters worse, Mexico is abusing the US Birthright Scam loophole by encouraging female citizens to give birth in the United States. Birth Tourism has become a multi-billion-dollar industry due to America’s negligent immigration and citizenship laws. This creates instant US citizen status for foreign parents who have only foreign loyalties and connections, and will always remain so.
The majority of Americans have necessitated that it is time to eradicate this pervasive abuse and adopt a common sense solution that would interpret the 14th Amendment as it was written. The new legislation would do just that and deliver a non-citizen birth certificate to all babies born in the US to illegal aliens.
Another factor that makes the case for ending the scam is that Mexico grants automatic Mexican citizenship to all babies born in the US. These babies already have automatic Mexican citizenship at birth, and many contend America should allow them Mexican citizenship.
By giving automatic citizenship to millions of Mexican citizen babies at birth, the US Government has, perhaps unwittingly, created millions of new dual citizens who have, and will primarily have strong loyalties to Mexico first, especially when they grow up with Mexican parents and families in the US.
Not unexpected, the National Council of La Raza has a different opinion on the issue. “These thoughtless and unnecessary proposals take our country in the wrong direction, away from inclusion and our other core American values,” said Janet Murguía, NCLR President and CEO. “The citizenship clause is a bedrock principle of civil rights and part of what makes us all Americans. Never in our nation’s history have we amended the Constitution to take away someone’s rights and we should not do so now.”
Well Janet: And never in our nations history has a lawless demographic imposed itself upon our country with such disturbing numbers, arrogance, deceit, fraud and contempt against the American people.
While advocates consider the elucidation is quite simple or Kindergarten in stature, can be defined directly, and doesn’t require a change in the Constitution, La Raza will never agree with you. Champions of this idea would have you believe that their suggestions are unassuming, uncomplicated, and an easy fix to the most important issue facing this nation. But there is nothing simple about taking away a right that millions of Americans fought and died for.
There is nothing uncomplicated about an assault on our Constitution. And there is a solution Janet.
The debate on the birthright scam is certain to bring forth a blistering national discussion, one that will challenge this country’s will to enforce our laws and quit giving in to people who smile at you during the day, and consider you the enemy who stole their land when amongst themselves at night.
Here is the bill. It comprises of just one page;
State Legislators for Legal Immigration, January 5, 2011
BILL
(a) A person is a citizen of the state of [Arizona] if:
(1) The person is born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and
(2) The person is a resident of the state of [Arizona], as defined by [state code § xyz],
(b) For the purposes of this statute, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States has the meaning that it bears in Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, namely that the person is a child of at least one parent who owes no allegiance to any foreign sovereignty, or a child without citizenship or nationality in any foreign country. For the purposes of this statute, a person who owes no allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is a United States citizen or national, or an immigrant accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the United States, or a person without citizenship or nationality in any foreign country.
(c) In addition to the criteria of citizenship described under sections (a) and (b), a person is a citizen of the state of [Arizona] if:
(1) The person is naturalized in the United States, and
(2) The person is a resident of the state of [Arizona], as defined by [state code § xyz],
(d) Citizenship of the state of [Arizona] shall not confer upon
rrjenn posted at 10:27 am on Fri, Jan 7, 2011.
fretsward looks like there is a limit to how many lines are allowed.
rrjenn posted at 12:50 pm on Fri, Jan 7, 2011.
Wyoming lawmakers will debate Arizona-style immigration bill
CHEYENNE -- A bill patterned after Arizona's tough immigration law will be introduced in the Wyoming legislative session that opens Jan. 11.
"I would say it's an Arizona clone," said Rep. Pete Illoway, R-Cheyenne, the prime sponsor. "We want to show support for Arizona."
Illoway believes there will be support in the Legislature for the proposal, but doesn't know for sure.
Illoway also thinks Gov. Matt Mead might look at the bill favorably if it gets through the House and Senate and to his desk.
"He's certainly favorable for us standing up for our rights," Illoway said.
The bill, he said, will be filed after it gets a fiscal note -- an estimate of the cost.
The governor's office is waiting for a copy of the bill before Mead will comment. However, the new Republican chief executive has said he could support a bill for Wyoming that would be tailored to the state's needs, said Carol Statkus, general counsel to the governor.
The federal government has filed suit to have the Arizona law declared unconstitutional.
"We're going to move on even if the feds have sued Arizona. I think it will eventually go to the Supreme Court," Illoway said.
Masterrogue666 posted at 9:09 pm on Tue, Jan 11, 2011.
Bustamante called the legislation "mean-spirited racism."
Gee, you'd like someone that belonged to the AZ bar would know the difference between racisim and legal standing. Perhaps he skipped class a few too many times....
rrjenn posted at 8:14 pm on Wed, Jan 12, 2011.
I wonder how Bustamante would react if it were 20 million African Watusi illegals had invaded the American southwest and thousands more were flooding across to have their baby's? I'm betting he would cry foul as loud as he could and demand that coming here to have baby's was a Mexican right not to be taken away from by the new undocumented immigrants from Africa. Or if thousands of Canadians were doing the same from the northern border. Being a Latino just makes you less than credible Mr Bustamante. But it does make you an open border racist.
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